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How can a USURPER command our armed forces?
How can a USURPER sign any treaties with foreign governments?
How can a USURPER sign anything into law, let alone the health care monstrosity, or make any Supreme Court nominations?

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

Factcheck.org goes on to say this about Obama Sr., Jr. and the British Nationality Act of 1948:

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

 

Even the modern day State Department rules discusses the problems associated with dual citizenship:

7 FAM 081: U.S. Policy on Dual Nationality:

(e)While recognizing the existence of dual nationality, the U.S. Government does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Dual nationality may hamper efforts by the U.S. Government to provide diplomatic and consular protection to individuals overseas. When a U.S. citizen is in the other country of their dual nationality, that country has a predominant claim on the person.

...

the U.S. Supreme Court has stated that dual nationality is a "status long recognized in the law" and that "a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both." See Kawakita v. United States, 343 U.S. 717 (1952).

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86563.pdf

So, back to the question: "HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?"
It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born), a fact backed up by Factcheck.org. Assuming, of course, that Sr. was his legal father at birth.
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!

Barack Obama a/k/a Barry Soetoro * NOT Obama / Soetoro
* This assumes HI birth.
A citizen of 2 countries at birth.

http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed the parents (or grandparents or other relative) of baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate. A mailed-in form (without mention of a hospital, doctor, or midwife) signed by one of his grandparents (who forged the parent signature(s)) would have been enough to set up a birth record and a birth certificate at the Dept of Health. The Dept of Health would (presumably) then have automatically sent the names of the parents, their address as given on the mailed-in form , the gender of the child, and the date of birth to the Honolulu Advertiser and Star-Bulletin. The address given for the parents in the newspaper announcements is actually, however, the August 1961 home address of Obama’s maternal grandparents Stanley and Madelyn Dunham [6085 Kalanianaole Highway], and not the 1961 home address of Barack Obama, Sr. [625 11th Ave].) This notification would then have automatically generated the newspaper announcements. (This was the practice of the Honolulu Advertiser and Star-Bulletin at the time).

Bottom line: Even IF (big IF) he was born in HI, he inherited his father's foreign citizenship as well, making him a US citizen by US law and a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England by inheritance and England's law. He could not be considered a Natural Born Citizen as known by and as intended by the framers.

1 posted on 04/26/2010 10:21:50 AM PDT by rxsid
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Great stuff, instead of giving up, we get stronger! It’s what the country needs now.


223 posted on 05/02/2010 8:41:19 AM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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I love this part from Donofrio:
“There you have a lifelong Democrat politician – who served at a high level of Government service – making the argument that President Obama would not be eligible to the office of President despite his place of birth. Is the former Democrat Secretary of State now to be retroactively attacked as a wing nut birther?”

RATS are really backed into a corner with their ardent worship of the one - who is most probably not qualified to be POTUS as a natural born citizen according to the USC. The only tortured argument in favor of BHO’s NBC, which I’m sure they’ll trot out is retroactive application of the US Citizenship laws toward Ann Dunham, as well as LIBERAL and unconventional interpretation of SCOTUS opinion in rulings like Minor v. Happersett which casts doubt on the ‘natural-born citizen’ status of the class of citizens that are born to one citizen parent, and one non-citizen parent - with even that being a stretch for BHO:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=88&invol=162


224 posted on 05/03/2010 8:02:15 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - 11/2010, 11/2012 - Tea Party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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There are no other interpretations of the NBC clause that do not include the "two US citizen parents at birth" requirement. Regardless of where Obama Sr. was born, his status as a nonimmigrant alien with no intentions of ever becoming a US citizen makes it impossible for BHO to be an NBC.

Also, if BHO was born to a very single Ann Dunham, then there are a whole different set of rules that Hawaii had established for children of unmarried parents.

The classification of an illegitimate birth can never be changed by any court proceedings. It is fixed at birth for perpetuity

231 posted on 05/07/2010 9:18:12 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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Forensic Examiner Disproves Online COLB

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2008/12/29/keyes-v-lingle-case-dismissed-forensic-examiner-disproves-online-colb/

“forensic document examiner Sandra Ramsey Lines (pictured) has documented in an associated affidavit (PDF) the following”


232 posted on 05/09/2010 11:28:15 AM PDT by rosettasister
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“Exhibit C, the expert affidavit of renowned forensic document examiner Sandra Ramsey Lines, states that the certification of live birth posted by Mr. Obama as verification of his legitimacy cannot be verified as genuine and should be presumed fraudulent. “


233 posted on 05/10/2010 7:26:22 AM PDT by rosettasister
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