Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Iraqi Author Aref Alwan: The Jews Have an Historic Right to Palestine
memri ^ | Apr, 2008

Posted on 03/17/2010 9:22:52 AM PDT by PRePublic

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-24 next last

1 posted on 03/17/2010 9:22:53 AM PDT by PRePublic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: PRePublic

Fatwa to follow, no doubt.


2 posted on 03/17/2010 9:27:19 AM PDT by rae4palin (islam is of the devil)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PRePublic

His first “error” is in acknowleging that Jews even have a right to exist.

And yes, it is long overlooked that Islamic imperialism “designates” muslim authority over a number of lands. There are still claims for Spain now and then.

What is the Islamic “history” for Indonesia? Did Mohammed fly on his horse over there?


3 posted on 03/17/2010 9:30:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rae4palin

Sure, espercially that he criticizes the hatred that Islamists use from Koran text, oh boy.


4 posted on 03/17/2010 9:34:52 AM PDT by PRePublic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: a fool in paradise
His first “error” is in acknowleging that Jews even have a right to exist. Yup, only "tolerant" Arab-Muslims "may" live in the middle east...
5 posted on 03/17/2010 9:35:59 AM PDT by PRePublic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: PRePublic

Save for later


6 posted on 03/17/2010 9:36:34 AM PDT by yooling ( FUBO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PRePublic

Didn’t Native Americans say their God had given them the continent to live in? They also had a historical record of residency.

So, going by this author’s logic, then Native Americans “must have a historical right to own North America”. Right?

Hey, here’s an idea - instead of trying to remake the world as it was thousands of years ago, let’s leave the past in the past and deal with just the modern world, ‘kay?


7 posted on 03/17/2010 9:46:06 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PRePublic

I don’t whether or not the Jews have a historic right to Jerusalem but I do know that Jews have been fighting Arabs have been fighting Jews for 3,000 years. Who on this planet thinks that they are so omnipotent that they can “solve” the problems between Jews and Arabs?

I also know that Jews started a war to simply take land from Palestinians then declare themselves a “country”.

It never has made much sense to me about why people of the world and particularly in this country, would automatically support Israel or for that matter, support the Arab world on a political level.

It seems to me that the best option would be to be neutral other than the fact that Israel is supposedly the only “democracy” in the Middle East.


8 posted on 03/17/2010 9:52:23 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: El Gran Salseron

El Gran Salseron - If you read your history you will realize that there has been a continuous population of Jews in Jerusalem before, during, and after the muslim conquest of Judea. The Arabs conquered it around 700 AD and, 1300 years later, the Jews took it back. Granted the native population of Judean Jews were augmented by Jewish refugees from the ruins of the 3rd Reich, the hell named the Soviet Union, and the various muslim sh*thole countries that torment Jews.


9 posted on 03/17/2010 10:06:05 AM PDT by WMarshal (Where is the next Sam Adams?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: El Gran Salseron

El Gran Salseron - If you read your history you will realize that there has been a continuous population of Jews in Jerusalem before, during, and after the muslim conquest of Judea. The Arabs conquered it around 700 AD and, 1300 years later, the Jews took it back. Granted the native population of Judean Jews were augmented by Jewish refugees from the ruins of the 3rd Reich, the hell named the Soviet Union, and the various muslim sh*thole countries that torment Jews.


10 posted on 03/17/2010 10:07:05 AM PDT by WMarshal (Where is the next Sam Adams?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: canuck_conservative
Actually the Native Americans had no concept of private property. They pulled up the stakes and moved with the change of the seasons. Sort of like going south to Florida for the winter...like Je.......no I can't

On the other hand the area was named Palestine by the Roman Emperor Hadrian to piss off the Jews.

11 posted on 03/17/2010 10:10:39 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: WMarshal

You seem to be using the same excuse that Arabs use. We were there first! No, WE were there first!

Like I said.....3,000 years of hatred and fighting. It’s not going to end anytime soon. This country or any other country on the planet is/are foolish to think that they can “solve” the issue. :-)


12 posted on 03/17/2010 10:12:16 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: massgopguy

Not all Natives were nomadic hunter-gatherers.

The Huron and Iroquois had large permanent villages, fed largely by agriculture (beans, corn, squash), and many Western tribes had river-based permanent villages, reliably supplied by annual salmon runs.

The private-property argument is irrelevant; if the natives were offered ownership of North America now, they’d happily take it.


13 posted on 03/17/2010 10:20:57 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: PRePublic

“...constructed on the site of an ancient Byzantine church, adjoining Solomon’s Temple, destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD.”

I’m nitpicking, but it was the Second Temple that was destroyed by the Romans at that date. The Temple of Solomon was destroyed several centuries earlier; The Byzantine Empire didn’t arise until several centuries later.


14 posted on 03/17/2010 3:43:16 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

..................

15 posted on 03/17/2010 3:55:10 PM PDT by SJackson (Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Fred Nerks

· join list or digest · view topics · view or post blog · bookmark · post a topic · subscribe ·

 
Gods
Graves
Glyphs
Thanks PRePublic. Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.
GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother, and Ernest_at_the_Beach
 

·Dogpile · Archaeologica · LiveScience · Archaeology · Biblical Archaeology Society ·
· Discover · Nat Geographic · Texas AM Anthro News · Yahoo Anthro & Archaeo · Google ·
· The Archaeology Channel · Excerpt, or Link only? · cgk's list of ping lists ·


16 posted on 03/18/2010 3:28:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://themagicnegro.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: El Gran Salseron

* I don’t know your religion but Judea-Christian is not what you posted here.

* You are wrong on a Biblical historic version as WELL AS ON GENERAL History, no one denies the fact that it’s the Jews who were there FIRST and no one disputes the fact that the Arabs IMMIGRATED to the area since the late 1800s.

* What on earth are you talking about “3,000 years”? with Arabs, shows the ignorance that you don’;t ANYTHING about the area, the dispute started only (about) 130 years.

* Nor is your tone “Jews started the war” accurate, it was the Mufti al-Hussein who started the was in the 1920’s on the Jews to annihilate them before the “occupation” excuse.

So, Do you simply hate Jews?


17 posted on 03/18/2010 10:40:42 PM PDT by PRePublic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: PRePublic

I don’t hate Jews and I do believe that Arabs are inherently evil. Just stating things as I see them. In my opinion it takes two to tango. :-)


18 posted on 03/18/2010 11:43:07 PM PDT by El Gran Salseron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: El Gran Salseron
It takes two to tango, just that the “conflict” was created by ONE side, more exact by the Mufti al-Husseini in the 1920's, as part of the infamous TWIN FASCISM: Arab racism & Islamic bigotry often working together or a part...) that is responsible in...
Genocide in the Sudan, on Kurds, on Berbers, against Copts, against ALL Christians in Arab Muslim lands, against Buddhists in Thailand, Hindus in India, bombings in: US, France, UK, Bali, Spain... shedding the blood of the own “brothers & sisters” in “palestine”, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Algeria (only 100,000 dead in that country by the Islamists’ war), Eritrea, Somalia, Russia, China, you name it... Look at most bloodshed around the world what major part is "not" connected to the above motivation? Aproposito, a mi si me gusta la Salsa (salseron?)
19 posted on 03/26/2010 5:28:05 PM PDT by PRePublic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: PRePublic

I wasn’t posting as a Judeo-Christian but from a different angle. :-)

I don’t disagree with what you say. All that you have said is true but with many Arab nations whose populations, in total, far out-number the population of Israel, I don’t understand why the world and particularly this country, sides with Israel.

In addition, the Arab world has oil. Israel does not or at least has very little oil. The whole thing just makes no sense to me.

Si te gusta la Salsa bueno entonces debes visitar el “Freeper Canteen Music” “thread” en los viernes en la noche, el sabado en la tarde y el sabado en la noche. Pongo mucha Salsa en el “Freeper Canteen” “thread” de la música.


20 posted on 03/26/2010 5:59:22 PM PDT by El Gran Salseron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-24 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson