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Show me your papers [! National ID Card !]
American Thinker blog ^ | 3-10-10 | Lee DeCovnick

Posted on 03/13/2010 9:29:38 AM PST by smokingfrog

All United States citizens may be required to carry a biometric I.D. card!

That's not Orwell's Big Brother speaking. Rather Democrat Chuck Schumer (D- New York), and Republican Lindsay Graham (R- South Carolina) have devised new legislation to mandate that every worker carry a government I.D. card to prove his citizenship. The card must be carried every day and may be checked by employers and any governmental authority upon request.

All U.S. citizens would be required to carry an ID cards according to this plan. It's meant to keep companies from hiring illegal immigrants. No matter where you apply for a job, under the plan, you would have to have a card carrying bio-metric information on a microchip. It's like your fingerprints, or a scan of the veins in your hands.

Even the ACLU is not backing this transparent attempt to force a mandatory national I.D. onto 300 million Americans.

We're talking about fingerprinting every single American worker, and that card, in turn, will probably be used not only to work but also to travel, to vote, perhaps even to own a gun.

Senator Graham, in response to these privacy concerns said, "This program would not expand like that." I wouldn't want to call the Senator a liar, but that is a breathtaking level of naivety for a U.S. senator.

National I.D. cards are nothing new, totalitarian regimes revel in the ability to disallow travel, financial transactions, and food distribution for those who don't have the proper papers. A microchip on the card opens the door for the inclusion of non-medical information such as political or union affiliations, criminal or civil judgments, and with the addition of a GPS chip, all travel activity around town and overseas.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: aclu; amnesty; banglist; bhoamnesty; bhohealthcare; biometrics; enforcementworks; guncontrol; healthcare; idcard; immigration; lindsaygrahm; obamacare; pelosicare; publicoption; terrorism
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To: Humbucker; Admin Moderator
You honestly have no idea what that word means, do you?

Uh, yeah - I do.

Now you're pissing me off!

41 posted on 03/13/2010 10:30:34 AM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: smokingfrog

You sir, are un-American. It is anti-patriotic to demean WWII

Obama is not Hitler. Only Hitler was. Nothing can compare to the evil he perpetrated. And every time you call a leftist a Nazi, you cheapen the hell on earth that scum perpetrated.

Is it really that hard for you to grasp? Or do you just like calling people names more than you love our Veterans?


42 posted on 03/13/2010 10:34:43 AM PST by Humbucker
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To: Candor7
Hard to find clear images...


43 posted on 03/13/2010 10:35:58 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Sherman Logan
False choice.

There are multiple ways to identify people want a job as being here legally, a national ID card is not needed. Granted the issue of liberal states doing their best to muddy the water with their socialist egalitarianism has to be addressed, but a set of MVD issued travel documents is not the answer.

44 posted on 03/13/2010 10:37:15 AM PST by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century US Congress when he wrote 1984)
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To: newfreep

You are a shame of an American and so is Jonah Goldberg.


45 posted on 03/13/2010 10:37:19 AM PST by Humbucker
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To: smokingfrog

Tell you what, I’ll stop posting if you can prove that degrading the sacrifices and deaths of WWII is ever justifiable.


46 posted on 03/13/2010 10:40:16 AM PST by Humbucker
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To: Humbucker

Get over yourself.


47 posted on 03/13/2010 10:44:17 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: SeaWolf

I love how the term “false choice” is used whenever someone points out that a tradeoff is required.

Without determining that person A is indeed person A, what are the “multiple ways” by which we can determine whether he is here legally? Before determining a person’s status, you have to know for sure he is the person he claims to be.


48 posted on 03/13/2010 10:44:34 AM PST by Sherman Logan ( .)
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To: Humbucker
Danger! Danger! Liberal newbie troll!

Humbucker
Since Dec 14, 2009

Appears Liberals/Socialists like Humbucker want to deny the Nazis were the LEFT-WING "National Socilaits Workers Party" - just like the liberals' comrades, the Communists. All left-wing groups are facist dictators wanting a large Federal govt to control our lives.

Heil MAO-bama - our messiah!


49 posted on 03/13/2010 10:46:10 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Admin Moderator

I can get over myself.

I can’t get over 60 million dead. Apparently you can.


50 posted on 03/13/2010 10:46:56 AM PST by Humbucker
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To: Humbucker
Sorry, but using the term 'facism' does not demean the servicepeople from WWII, and neither does putting a Hitler moustache on a smiley face.

Your opinion may vary, but that does not mean you can attack other posters over that disagreement - so knock it off and quit mashing Abuse.

51 posted on 03/13/2010 10:49:09 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: newfreep

Congradulations, you just insulted 60 million people. I hope they all know about it when you join them.


52 posted on 03/13/2010 10:49:20 AM PST by Humbucker
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To: Humbucker

KNOCK IT OFF!


53 posted on 03/13/2010 10:50:10 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

Can you please explain how it doesn’t? I cannot fathom any justification of this.


54 posted on 03/13/2010 10:50:19 AM PST by Humbucker
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To: Humbucker

(1) I did not demean WWII by any stretch of the imagination
(2) I did not call 0bama Hitler
(3) I did not call any a leftist a Nazi
(4) I did not call anyone names
(5) I AM a veteran, my father was a veteran and both my brothers are veterans.


55 posted on 03/13/2010 10:50:39 AM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: Humbucker

I doubt any explanation I would give you would sink in - so drop the subject NOW.


56 posted on 03/13/2010 10:51:04 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

>KNOCK IT OFF!

If you can convince me how it doesn’t demean the sacrifice of my father, then I will.


57 posted on 03/13/2010 10:51:22 AM PST by Humbucker
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To: Humbucker

Let me put it this way - I don’t have to convince you. So knock it off if you want to stay here.


58 posted on 03/13/2010 10:52:25 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Humbucker

Just curious. Have you read Jonah’s book? I seriously doubt it, based on your comments on this thread.

He does not claim modern American liberals are the moral equivalent of Nazis, as you seem to believe and as the entire leftist/liberal community assumed when the book was released.

The entire point of the book is that Fascism is a much broader term than Nazism. It essentially is a form of state-worship and is not necessarily racist (the Italian fascists weren’t, at first) or incredibly violent.

Jonah’s whole point is that America is heading in the direction of a kinder, gentler (liberal) fascism, but still a form of fascism. The rest of the west is already farther down the road in that direction.

His choice of title and cover art was obviously intended to be provocative, at which is was extremely effective. If you read the book I think you will agree with most of what he says.


59 posted on 03/13/2010 10:52:50 AM PST by Sherman Logan ( .)
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To: smokingfrog

(1) I did not demean WWII by any stretch of the imagination
(2) I did not call 0bama Hitler
(3) I did not call any a leftist a Nazi
(4) I did not call anyone names
(5) I AM a veteran, my father was a veteran and both my brothers are veterans.

I think everyone should live up to all of these points


60 posted on 03/13/2010 10:53:42 AM PST by Humbucker
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