It’s Official, American Grand Jury will not drop the “birther” label

American Grand Jury ^ | February 28th, 2010 | Bob Campbell

[manonCANAL]

White house school czar will order homosexuality be taught to even our youngest school kid.
They are recruiting high school seniors for his brown shirts army.
What would have happened if a republican president did this?

[ASA Vet]

as we speak I feel the new forgery is being artificially aged.

Who do you "feel" will be listed as father?

It couldn't remain as Barak Hussein Obama (Sr.) if they want to get past the Jus Sanguinis requirement.

[Joe 6-pack]

"Who was that??"

Key Witness in Passport Fraud Case Fatally Shot

[DJ MacWoW]

I don’t remember his name but remember during the campaign when State Dept workers looked at the passport records of McCain and Bam? One of those guys turned up dead.

[FelixFelicis]

What are you getting at? As ridiculous as this conversation is, I’ll reiterate: If Putin or Osama fathered a child who was born to an American mother on U.S. soil - that is the scenario, is it not? - then yes, that child, at age 35, would have every right to run for president. You may think you’ve lured me into some logical trap, but I stand by that completely.

[manonCANAL]

50,000 old people in the UK being starved to death every year because of their socialist health care system.
The slimeballs in the Whitehouse want the same for us.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Who do you "feel" will be listed as father?

You know what's sad, Osama him self could turn out to be the father and some people here would say it didn't matter because NBC in their eyes has not been defined.

[DJ MacWoW]

The entire "birther" movement rotates around ONE DOCUMENT!

Not really. What about his other name, Barry Soetoro, and his adoption by Lolo?

[melancholy]

Ping...............

It’s Official, American Grand Jury will not drop the “birther” label

How many institutions and powerful money brokers helped fabricate the lies that turned a ghost into a real life image?

Exactly!

Out of all the sealed records, let's see 0b0z0's school records. Is this too much to ask? Will the enablers and After-Birthers turn into After-Ghosters?

Do we have to take the destruction of the Republic until 0b0z0 drops out of the '12 election? He'll never risk the scrutiny demanded by other candidates, especially if a naturalized American decides to run!

After '10, the new Congress may have standing to demand to see ALL the records or start impeachment procedures.

The Ghoster

[DJ MacWoW]

Parents of a candidate certainly do matter as it leads to dual citizenship and divided loyalties.

[melancholy]

How about #89?

[Las Vegas Ron]

Sorry about the format

• “Minor v. Happersett - yes, it’s been mentioned on FR but not fully hashed out. I don’t see how, if this was decided by the SCOTUS then they did indeed give a definition of the term NBC.
http://supreme.justia.com/us/88/162/case.html";
Not only has it been discussed, but so too have other SCOTUS cases that have that exact definition that the framers (no doubt) used when they entered the NBC requirement without debate.
Attorney Apuzzo mentions these cases in the “Kerchner v Obama” & Congress case:
“THE VENUS, 12 U.S. (8 Cranch) 253, 289 (1814) (Marshall, C.J. concurring) (cites Vattel’s definition of Natural Born Citizen)
SHANKS V. DUPONT, 28 U.S. 242, 245 (1830) (same definition without citing Vattel)
MINOR V. HAPPERSETT, 88 U.S.162,167-168 ( 1875) (same definition without citing Vattel)
EX PARTE REYNOLDS, 1879, 5 Dill., 394, 402 (same definition and cites Vattel)
UNITED STATES V WARD, 42 F.320 (C.C.S.D. Cal. 1890) (same definition and cites Vattel.)”
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17519578/Kerchner-v-Obama-Congress-DOC-34-Plaintiffs-Brief-Opposing-Defendants-Motion-to-Dismiss
NBC in the Constitutional drafts:
June 18th, 1787 - Alexander Hamilton suggests that the requirement be added, as: “No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen_of_the_United_States
July 25, 1787 (~5 weeks later) - John Jay writes a letter to General Washington (president of the Constitutional Convention): “Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.” [the word born is underlined in Jay’s letter.] http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/hlaw:@field%28DOCID+@lit%28fr00379%29%29:
September 2nd, 1787 George Washington pens a letter to John Jay. The last line reads: “I thank you for the hints contained in your letter”
http://www.consource.org/index.asp?bid=582&fid=600&documentid=71483
September 4th, 1787 (~6 weeks after Jay’s letter and just 2 days after Washington wrote back to Jay) - The “Natural Born Citizen” requirement is now found in their drafts. Madison’s notes of the Convention The proposal passed unanimously without debate.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“Out of all the sealed records, let’s see 0b0z0’s school records. “

This alone would likely finish him off.

[melancholy]

This alone would likely finish him off.

"likely" is very generous of you! Hehehe

[Las Vegas Ron]

Here, you might want to spend some time here, lot's of historical stuff you would never see anywhere else:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2450158/posts

[Tex-Con-Man]

Of course, the phony Kenyan welcome sign is just a ploy to make us birthers look even more crazy.

No, It was meant as a Photoshop joke, you don't need any help from me to look crazier.

I don't really think it's even that convincing.

According to what I found, the primary language for Kenya is Swahili, not Arabic. But in google translator, Arabic was easier to disguise hidden messages...such as:

Under WELCOME TO is: Paul is dead
Under Kenya is: Hawaii
Under Birthplace of Barack Obama is: Not the Birthplace of Barack Obama

I simply did a copy and paste from google translator to Photoshop. But since I am 100% Arabic illiterate, according to what I've been told, the Arabic spelling and grammar are awful...but who cares...it's a joke.

Just in case...the above is not a real sign...it too is a joke.

[Man50D]

I’m not a legal scholar, but as far as I can tell, no one has come up with an iron-clad definition for what the founders meant by “natural born.” We can agree it means “born in the U.S.” Beyond that, I’m not convinced this “father was a British subject” issue has any bearing on the matter. In light of that, I continue to maintain that judging people by their parents’ status is not fair game.

Citizenship status is a central and essential element to the eligibility per the natural born citizenship requirement in Article 2 Section 1. An explanation is below.

"Natural Born" is declared in Article II [No Person except a 'natural born' Citizen...]

.. and "Natural Born" is implied and expressed in the Constitution as a result of COMMON LAW.

The Common Law in this case goes all the way back to the Magna Carta (over 700 years). "Natural Born" was actually expressed (written) in Vatel's Law of Nations. If you don't know what the Law of Nations said about "natural born" you should. The Founding Fathers did. The Founding Fathers knew exactly what was implied, expressed and common to law when they drafted Article II, the "natural born" eligibility clause.

The Constitution and de Vattel’s Law of Nations has the answer to any questions regarding citizenship abroad and any laws crossing national boundaries:

EXCERPT 1. U.S. Constitution, Article II, §1: No Person except a natural born Citizen, OR a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

EXCERPT 2: de Vattel’s Law of Nations circa 1758 Book 1, Chapter XIX, § 212: The natives, or NATURAL-BORN CITIZENS, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens…The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent.

Finally, the main item in the Constitution that ties both together:

EXCERPT 3: U.S. Constitution, Article I, §8: The Congress shall have Power…To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the LAW OF NATIONS.

LAW OF NATIONS is CAPITALIZED, meaning our framers were citing a proper name. There was only one Law of Nations in 1787 officially declared. And yes, Congress has the power to create and enforce ANY LAW mentioned in the Law of Nations written by Emmerich de Vattel! It was sitting right under our noses the entire time. <

[Pilsner]

If you are an American Grand Jury member you will receive a letter on March 1st

After passing this message through my secret decoder ring, it translates:

BE SURE TO DONATE MONEY TO US AND DRINK YOUR OVALTINE.

[FelixFelicis]

I hope your research is more accurate than the three misspellings in the first line of your post would indicate. Whatever your sources imply, there are those on the other side of the issue with sources that imply the opposite. The question isn’t - and probably can’t be - settled. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got a hot date with Vladimir Putin.