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1 posted on 02/12/2010 12:35:44 PM PST by syc1959
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Should clarify, that JUST being born in the United States does not make anyone a ‘Native’ citizen automatically.


2 posted on 02/12/2010 12:37:38 PM PST by syc1959
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OMG.... you’ve done it. You’ve proved that Barack Obama is not a Native American!!!!

He damn well better not apply for a Casino License!!!


3 posted on 02/12/2010 12:38:29 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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Does this mean he could never become President?


4 posted on 02/12/2010 12:42:05 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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Nice try but still meaningless


5 posted on 02/12/2010 12:42:30 PM PST by the long march
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So can I open a casino in my back yard or not?????
7 posted on 02/12/2010 12:47:50 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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I thought the term used in the Constitution was “natural born citizen”.
8 posted on 02/12/2010 12:48:03 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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I agree

The constitution DOES NOT SAY:
"Anyone born in the Unites Sates is a citizen"

It says:
"Anyone born in the Unites Sates, AND under the laws and jurisdictions of, is a citizen"

I may not have the exact words- but you can see there is a MAJOR difference between those 2 sentences.

I think that all these illegal aliens with so-called 'anchor babies' (a child born in the US to an ILLEGAL alien) are NOT citizens

9 posted on 02/12/2010 12:49:58 PM PST by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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lets all put some funds up and get the ball rolling


12 posted on 02/12/2010 12:52:23 PM PST by chicken head
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To: LucyT; null and void
Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.

Ping!

16 posted on 02/12/2010 1:01:22 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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This is counterproductive - and, if you have to fall back on a technicality like this, kind of pathetic. Even if this is an accurate reading of the law, the average American (myself included) has a deep aversion to judging people on their parental/familial backgrounds. People also dislike technicalities. Saying Obama is unqualified to be president because his FATHER may have been a British subject? Not gonna fly, even if true.

I have other problems with the Birthers. Do you really think Obama was born in Kenya? Fine - do the leg work, find the evidence, and show us. Until then, quit yapping. You sound crazy and you make the rest of us look crazy. And make no mistake, the media will play up the “crazy” angle to the best of its ability.

Appearances matter. To openminded folks who might consider voting GOP in the next election, you look like conspiracist maniacs who are still stuck on losing the election and care more about that than the real issues of the day, of which there are many. Who wants to jump on a bandwagon like that?


29 posted on 02/12/2010 1:15:38 PM PST by FelixFelicis (When can we *change* back? [Get yer bumper sticker at www.cafepress.com/deepright!])
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So at what point in history are Indians not native born?


38 posted on 02/12/2010 1:21:37 PM PST by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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Good lord.


60 posted on 02/12/2010 1:52:31 PM PST by powderfan
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I can point you to at least one Supreme Court decision that says you’re wrong.


65 posted on 02/12/2010 1:57:29 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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bump


290 posted on 02/12/2010 6:54:58 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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Interesting 1880 Census results reported in US Congressional hearing in 1892.

Start on page 666: Statement of Mr Louis Schade

Tell me if you come to the same conclusion that the ‘natives’ were those of US citizens either from the time of the revolution or from the naturalization of the ‘grandparents’, who naturalized thus making the grandchild's parents citizens at the time of the grandparents naturalization.

They way I see it, according to this census hearing, children of foreigners residing in the US were also classified as foreigners.

315 posted on 02/12/2010 9:07:39 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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OOPS! I guess a link would help wouldn’t it.

http://books.google.com/books?id=-ShAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA54&dq=Immigration+and+Citizenship:+Process+and+Policy&lr=&as_brr=1&cd=71#v=onepage&q=&f=false


316 posted on 02/12/2010 9:11:13 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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Obama was already claimed by British jurisdiction under the British Nationailty Act of 1948

I'm so sick of this crap. NO OTHER COUNTRY'S LAWS CAN DETERMINE OUR OWN. If, say, Chavez or Castro made a law granting Cuban/Venezuelan citizenship to all Americans at birth, would that make all of them ineligible to be President?

330 posted on 02/13/2010 7:24:01 AM PST by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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Stupid is as stupid does. No wonder people make fun of this crap.


363 posted on 02/13/2010 12:11:49 PM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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Note: 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof'

You are subject to the jurisdiction if you to have pay your parking tickets. Foreign diplomats in the US are not subject to its jurisdiction. They get to laugh at parking tickets.


Double parked car with diplomatic tags in San Francisco, California.
The consular code on the license plate indicates issuance to Ukraine.

But their kids born here are not US citizens, unlike just about anyone else born here, including Zero, alas.

396 posted on 02/13/2010 4:35:29 PM PST by cynwoody
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Check out the posts around 692


693 posted on 02/15/2010 11:56:17 AM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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