Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.

nobarack08 | Feb 12, 2010 | syc1959

[syc1959]

Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.

Immigration and Citizenship: Process and Policy fourth edition Under Jus Soli, the following is written "The Supreme Court's first holding on the sublect suggested that the court would give a restrictive reading to the phrase, potentially disqualifing significant number of persons born within the physical boundries of the nation. In Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94, 5 S.CT. 41, 28 L.ED. 643 (1884), the court ruled that native Indians were not U.S. citizens, even if they later severed their ties with their tribes. The words "subject to the jurisdiction thereof," the court held, mean "not merely subjct in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiange." Most Indians could not meet the test. "Indians born within the territorial limits of the United States, members of, and owing immediate allegiance to, one of the Indian Tribes, (an alien through dependent power,) although in a geographical sense born in the United States, are no more 'born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,'*** then the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government ***. Id. at 102. It continues that Congress eventually passed legislation with the 'Allotment Act of 1887, that conferred citizenship on many Indians.

The fact remains, the Court held, complete and sole Jurisdiction. As I have held that being born anywhere in the United States, jurisdiction is required, sole and complete, and Barack Hussein Obama was already claimed by British jurisdiction under the British Nationailty Act of 1948, and as such fails the United states Constitutional requirement of a Natural Born Citizen.

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Barack Hussein Obama did not have sole jurisdiction under the United States.

Title 8 and the 14th Amendment clearlt state the following;

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

Note: 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof'

[mojitojoe]

Nice expose. He’s a troll. Please report him.

[mojitojoe]

Only IF he was born in Hawaii. He wasn’t. It was a little north of the borders of the US. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[Snurple]

Stupid is as stupid does. No wonder people make fun of this crap.

[mojitojoe]

Exactly Danae! His entire book was about a father he never knew and his ‘African’ roots. He hates this country, he hates the Constitution. He has said as much many times and he can't deny it, the videos exist. Ones that You Tube removed still exist. He is an impostor, there to “fundamentally change America”.

[DoctorBulldog]

Thank you.

Cheers

[mojitojoe]

strauss

[Red Steel]

Time to get one of those awesome Birther lawyers and file a criminal complaint against the hawaii DOH. There will be no hurdle of standing whatsoever.

Anyone can post crap online, Obama's COLB, and call it anything they want something like your posts. How about Obama quit being a little girl and "man up" a little by submitting that published online DailyKos.org 'Certification of Live Birth' to a court, instead of being the sissy girl that he is and having other sissies defend him by saying he doesn't have to?

[Red Steel]

I see you came over here trolling your pap.

[Danae]

Yep.

This is the ultimate end game. I am completely certain that the President is NOT a Natural Born Citizen, he had two Nationalities at birth, and is an usurper.

I believe that Congress is now equally unbound by the constitution because they broke it in certifying an unconstitutional candidate.

We are in grave danger of losing everything. Congress and the Usurper can do anything they want to, we do NOT have a valid legal government.

[wideminded]

He hates this country, he hates the Constitution. He has said as much many times and he can't deny it, the videos exist. Ones that You Tube removed still exist.

If such videos existed, links to them would have been posted on this website many times. I would not have bypassed an opportunity to see one of these videos.

[Red Steel]

The whole birther thing is fueled by racism and disgusts me.

You're full of BS. You disgust us.

[mojitojoe]

Links have been posted, the videos are still there and here. Where in the hell have you been?

[mojitojoe]

and I’m not doing your homework. You find them yourself.

Search engines are your friend.

According to Obongo’s excavated 2001 interview, the Constitution’s fatal “flaw” is that it set up a limited form of government

Search for the video, it’s there as is the one where he stated in 5 days he would fundamentally change America. Go to You Tube, search for the older videos, pre-2006, those are the best because he didn’t know they would come back to haunt him. He’s a one term president, take that to the bank.

[mojitojoe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck&feature=player_embedded

[MHGinTN]

“The problem with that argument is it gives a country other than the US the power to determine who may be a natural born citizen of the US.” All this time I thought you were at least of average intelligence. Now, reading that piece of sophistry, it is obvious you are not; and further, you are spittling with an agenda when you make such fallacious assertions. Have you messiah kneepads yet?

[mojitojoe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cqN4NIEtOY

[Electric Graffiti]

Would you consider it " Racist " when they even questioned John McCain's eligibility.

That's going to be a tough one for the Obama rumpswabs to overcome. They haul Mclame's ass in front of a kangaroo court and ask him to pony up his documents but not Obama.

If McLame had brain cell one, he would have flipped them the bird and refused to release his records until all candidates were vetted in the same fashion.

[EnderWiggins]

"A simple question for you on born on US soil to anybody who is not a foriegn diplomat or occupying army..... Is that Supreme Court decision, the Law of the Land?

Currently, yes. Even the recent efforts to deny citizenship to anchor babies (such as the Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007 (HR 1940) acknowledge that this is currently the law, and that they are trying to change it.

[EnderWiggins]

"As a result, it appears to this author that Wong Kim Ark really does not add precedent nor provide a final clarification of the natural born citizen definition."

It appears that real judges in real courts disagree with you. For example, this ruling from just a few months ago rather clearly uses Wong Kim Ark to decide otherwise:

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Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.
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Ankeny v. Gov of Indiana

[EnderWiggins]

"Wrong again. He did define it. "

Unless he came back from the dead or drove a DeLorean with a flux capacitor, that is not true. He was dead for 30 years before the first translator (not de Vattel) ever slipped the phrase into an edition of his boom

As to Federalist 68, I notice that is says nothing about 2 citizen parents or natural born citizens. So I have no idea why you provided it. Or why you put the irrelevant de Vattel reference between the quotation and its reference.