Posted on 01/13/2010 1:25:50 PM PST by freedomyes
You’re showing remarkable illiteracy — and rudeness in not pinging me when you insult me.
Again: I said Robertson shouldn’t have said it. If he wants to say his craziness later at some conference, so be it. I suppose he will compare it to Sodom or whatever, and he is entitled to make that crazy claim. My only point was he shouldn’t make it now. If you think that I’m endorsing his hateful garbage, you’re being willfully stupid for the sake of getting your jollies.
No, I didn’t. You’re a liar. How very Christian, or whatever, of you. STFU.
So Pat believes our God is a cruel God that punished entire nations. I will have to disagree. Christ died for our sins to be forgiven. Just my opinion.
Too many people think of the Messiah of Israel as still a little baby, like this last Christmas, or perhaps a nice man with good teachings that we should follow. Actually, He's coming back as a warrior and is going to be going to war against His enemies and will be killing millions of people upon His return to this earth.
And God is a righteous God and He deals out punishment to entire nations, as He did during Israel's day and continues to do up to this day. Even Abraham Lincoln knew this (as you can see in my post up above from what Lincoln said in 1863)...
I posted about the Messiah of Israel earlier, and post it here again...
At Christmas -- a lot of people think about a cute little baby Jesus or a very nice man who said nice things to people, was uplifting, and healed a bunch of people...
What people really need to remember is that there's this "big bad Jewish fellow" out there, who's showing up soon, sorta unexpected, and he's "looking for bear" and is gonna open up "the biggest can of whoop-ass" you've ever seen in your life, on a bunch of people here on earth. LOL...
However, many fail to understand -- but they will "understand" when the Messiah of Israel returns to this earth, sets His feet on the soil of this globe, and sets up the ruling authority -- the one-world government -- that He puts into place over all nations, including the United States.
He's the Messiah of Israel, that He is coming back to earth, to set up a one-world government, with His headquarters in Jerusalem, ruling over all the nations of the world, including the United States and will rule over all who are still alive (from who are living right now today) -- and that He will definitely scrap the Constitution of the United States and make Himself the supreme ruler over all that we do.
The "day of reckoning" is coming for all of those who are trying to take over the world and put it totally under their control in an evil one-world empire. And they do admit that they want a one-world government -- their government, not God's...
When the Messiah of Israel comes back to this earth to set up His one-world government and subject all the nations of the world to His authority and rule -- He'll be making real short work of any of those yahoos...
And you can be sure that He will be utterly destroying anything to do with any of these yahoos, since whatever they say and do is a total perversion of anything to do with the Messiah of Israel.
And for sure -- we all, in this world, need the Messiah of Israel back, here on earth -- to destroy this coming one-world government and to install His own one-world government in its place.
I'm looking forward to the coming Kingdom on earth and the one-world government that the Messiah of Israel will be setting up, after He destroys, by His own hand, the present and evil one-world government that we see forming right now.
Isaiah 9:6-7
For unto us a Child is born.
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.
Actually Haiti was dedicated to one of their voodoo gods when formed, (much as our nation is one nation under God) and voodoo is still practiced there by most of the people.. On the other side of the same island is the Dominican Republic which is populated by the same immigrant people,shares the climate and soil with Haiti yet the Republic prospers and Haiti is stuck in strife and poverty.. with most of their people living in hovels and illiterate .
Is there a connection? Well spiritually speaking I would say it looks so. We credit God with the success of our nation and fight to keep His name on coins and in the pledge.. so somewhere in us as a people we do see a connection to the spiritual condition and dedication of a nation with its success and prosperity (BTW I rarely agree with Robertson..)
God has in the past charged specific prophets to warn certain nations to return to God, or to suffer His wrath.
There is a difference between a prophet who obeys God by delivering His message of impending doom, and an ordinary man telling doomed people they deserved what they got.
God has not charged us to judge. We are called to help.
I simply don’t believe that the Haitians are suffering because, per Pat Robertson, they are somehow cursed.
WHY?
Because he made a true statement?
So close!!
Psalms Chapter 2 1 Why do the nations rage, And the people plot a vain thing? 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, And the rulers take counsel together, Against the Lord and against His Anointed, saying, 3 "Let us break Their bonds in pieces And cast away Their cords from us." 4 He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; The Lord shall hold them in derision. 5 Then He shall speak to them in His wrath, And distress them in His deep displeasure: 6 "Yet I have set My King On My holy hill of Zion." 7 "I will declare the decree: The Lord has said to Me, 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You. 8 Ask of Me, and I will give You The nations for Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth for Your possession. 9 You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them to pieces like a potter's vessel.' " 10 Now therefore, be wise, O kings; Be instructed, you judges of the earth. 11 Serve the Lord with fear, And rejoice with trembling. 12 Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, And you perish in the way, When His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him.
WHY?
Because he made a true statement?
WHY?
Because he made a true statement?
Stupid is as stupid does. And old pat does stupid quite forcefully.
Do you suppose that these Haitians on whom the earthquake fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwell in the world? I tell you, no; but unless you and Pat repent you will both likewise perish.
These creeps disgust me.
>> I take it you are not a Christian and do not believe in the Bible as being the authoritative Word of God.
I am a devout Christian. I think a Christian should comfort, not condemn, the suffering. It is not for Pat Robertson to declare why this happened ... it is his job to use the opportunity to spread the love of the Almighty.
SnakeDoc
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