Change your Religion get Exemption from Obamacare!

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[goodnesswins]

YEP....I thought about that last week when I heard about the Amish exemption.....

[a fool in paradise]

People with religious objections can opt out Federal health care reform

I don't practice the same brand of Christianity that Harry Reid and Barack Obama do, the one where it is "Christian" to pay more to the government to see that poor people get medical coverage.

My bible teaches me that there is no charity in forced taxation.

So I take the religious exemption because I do not follow the State's Christianity as espoused by President Obama.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

I always thought there was something morally repugnant about insurance.

I'm glad that at least one religious group acts on this belief.

[silverleaf]

Maybe you can change your ethnicity- certain ethnic groups are also excluded (Eskimos)

Sure, this will stand up in USSC

[boxerblues]

she said she was unaware of the Amish interest in the bill and that their objections to the mandate surprised her because the Amish do buy vehicle insurance, for instance

Not around here they dont as they dont drive cars only horse and buggy

[Nachum]

Good one FromLori

The list, ping

[ClearCase_guy]

Civil Disobedience -- everyone should declare themselves to be Amish. Don't make any effort to make that a reality (unless you want to) but just tell the government that you're opting out.

We need tens of millions of people to tell the government to take a flying leap.

[farlander]

“Congressional aides said the exemption is based on a carve-out the Amish have had from Social Security and Medicare taxes since the 1960s”

Do the Amish not have to pay this in ? Hell I think I might be qucikly becoming Amish if that’s the case.

[goodnesswins]

Found this....

Do the Amish pay taxes?
Self-employed Amish do not pay Social Security tax. Those employed by non- Amish employers do pay Social Security tax. The Amish do pay real estate, state and federal income taxes, county taxes, sales tax, etc.

The Amish do not collect Social Security benefits, nor would they collect unemployment or welfare funds. Self sufficiency is the Amish community’s answer to government aid programs. Section 310 of the Medicare section of the Social Security act has a sub-section that permits individuals to apply for exemption from the self-employment tax if he is a member of a religious body that is conscientiously opposed to Social Security benefits but that makes reasonable provision of taking care of their own elderly or dependent members. The Amish have a long history of taking care of their own members. They do not have retirement communities or nursing homes; in most cases, each family takes care of their own, and the Amish community gives assistance as needed.

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Is it true the Amish are exempt from Medicare and Medicaid withholding? What legal basis is used for this?
Medicare and Medicaid are a part of the Social Security system. Old Order Amish believe that if the church is faithful to its calling, many government programs and commercial insurance are not needed. That conviction forced them to testify before Congress because they did not want to receive Social Security benefits. What they wanted instead was the right to look after their own elderly. They were finally given approval, if self-employed, to be exempt from paying the tax. Seldom do Old Order Amish individuals accept Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid.

[Battle Axe]

I live and work among the Amish. In general they pay cash for their medical care. If that particular family doesn't have enough, then the Bishops will access the neighboring churches and they get enough money.

The doctors probably instigated this as here is the rub.

They can get cash up front for a small discount on the bill as they do now.

OR.....they can let the Amish get obamaic insurance and they will be paid less than medicaid and when ever the gubmint feels like it.

[Battle Axe]

I have access to Amish clothes!!! Speak a little bit of English and a little bit of German. You’ll fit right in.

They are just normal people.

[CFIIIMEIATP737]

In regards to insurance being morally repugnant, I’ve always believed that insurance was no different than legalized gambling.

You place your wager (insurance premium) and transfer a risk (the odds of something bad happening) to the insurance carrier.

The exception to this analogy is life insurance.

[MAexile]

Not around here they dont as they dont drive cars only horse and buggy

A horse and buggy is still a vehicle.

My wife and I went down to Lancaster last year for a long weekend. While we were there we witnessed (pun intended) a horse and buggy blow through a red light. According the the B&B owners accidents between car and buggy are a common occurrence.

[FromLori]

I wonder if people could actually do it after all many liberals have lied about religious objections to serving their country in the time of War?

There would also be strength in numbers.

[Uncle Miltie]

I’m feeling really Christian Scientist about now.

Might have to go to a service here and there to maintain my exemption.

No problem.

[teenyelliott]

things that make you say hmmmmm ping

[who_would_fardels_bear]

That's a good analogy, but with insurance you aren't given free drinks by an agent wearing a skimpy dress.

[o_zarkman44]

I can grow a long beard and get a bowl over the head hair cut, plus a black hat and car if it helps beat the system.

[FromLori]

There’s an Amish buggy for sale down in Knapp, Wi I was trying to talk my husband into buying it to put it out in the front for a lawn decoration lol maybe I’ll get it for another reason now.