"PLEASE. I gave you references. Quit being lazy. I’m not here to spoon feed you, FRiend. This is a discussion thread. Either discuss because you have something to offer, or just say you don’t really know anything, but wanted to stop by say you like the cultists you met."
Okay, so you don't want to prove any of your information? In your post #532, you state "THAT the Christ child was only an “IT”, not a “HE”. See the New World Translation, Luke 2:16,17. *"......
However, you left out the whole story (not surprised) relating to the "it" they are referring to, just to make your false point......
Luke 2:8-17....There were also in that same country shepherds living out of doors and keeping watches in the night over their flocks. And suddenly Jehovah's angel stood by them, and Jehovah's glory gleamed around them and they became very fearful. But the angel said to them "Have no fear, but, look! I am declaring to YOU good news of a great joy that all the people will have, because there was born to YOU today a Savior, who is Christ (the) Lord, in Davids city. And this is a sign for YOU. YOU will find an infant bound in cloth bands and lying in a manger. And suddenly there came to be with the angel a multitude of the heavenly army, praising God and saying: Glory in the heights above to God, and upon earth, peace among men of goodwill.
So the angels had departed from them into heaven, the shepherds began saying to one another:"Let us by all means go clear to Bethlehem and see this thing that has taken place, which Jehovah has made known to us". And they went with haste and found Mary as well as Joseph, and the infant lying in the manger.
The "it" they refer to is THE BIRTH, THE SIGN, not the child.
This is why I asked you to post links. I do not take you at your word. You have already tried to make your point by leaving out pertinent information; therefore, your word will not be trusted.
If you don't want to link "your sources", then this discussion is over.
Now that's funny. When you are provided links, you don't address them.
You claim John1:1 says Jesus is a god. That would mean there's more than one God and God says there isn't. That either makes God a liar or Jesus a false god. God created the heavens and the earth. Why do you have trouble believing that He is a BIG God that is 3 persons in one?
“If you don’t want to link “your sources”, then this discussion is over.”
Apparently, you wish for someone to come it,
towel over the arm and make your life just so
easy. I gave you citations. If you wish to discuss
them, follow the citations.
I’m not here to make your life easy. If you wish
to discuss, then discuss. If not, just say, “Well,
really, I just thought I’d stop by and tell you
that every cultist I met was really, really nice
and helped me with the Bible.”
That’s OK.
“The “it” they refer to is THE BIRTH, THE SIGN, not the child.”
No, FRiend. “It” isn’t in the Greek text. It was chosen
by the NWT team because it supports their view - or they
started with the KJV and then just changed words where they
could to support their theology.
Modern translations have shifted to reflect “Him” or the “baby”.
17 Now when they had seen Him, they made widely known the saying which was told them concerning this Child.
NKJV
17 After seeing him, the shepherds told everyone what had happened and what the angel had said to them about this child.
NLT
I will also reflect back to you that twice you have answered
my post by picking at the simplest of things, while setting aside the complete heresies without comment...
Inquiring minds want to know why?
I’m just wondering about the justification for the use of Jehovah within the NWT passage. Luke used “kurios” not YHWH, in fact, YHWH is never used by any NT author.