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Will the cloture vote drama sink Obamacare?
Patriot Room ^ | December 21, 2009 | Bill Dupray

Posted on 12/21/2009 8:00:27 AM PST by Bill Dupray

Did Congress pass Obamacare at 1:00 a.m. this morning? One could be forgiven for thinking so. But one would be wrong. Today's vote was only a cloture vote to shut off debate. But months of vigorous opposition by the American people and a civil war in the Democrat Party has raised the profile of the legislation to unprecedented heights in the public eye. The cloture vote was widely reported to be 'the' vote. To 'Kerry' something is no longer a safe hiding place. If a Senator tries to Kerry this thing by telling his constituents that he 'voted for it before he voted against it,' people will just chuckle and tell him he isn't fooling anyone.

So the cloture vote was a vote for Obamacare.

(Excerpt) Read more at patriotroom.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; cloture; healthcare; senate
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

You are absolutely correct...THIS is where the big fight will be...


21 posted on 12/21/2009 8:54:04 AM PST by Boonie
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To: NELSON111

What is really in this legislation that they are willing to “die” for it?

From Kim Strassel in The Wall Street Journal:

“So why the stubborn insistence on passing health reform? Think big. The liberal wing of the party — the Barney Franks, the David Obeys — are focused beyond November 2010, to the long-term political prize. They want a health-care program that inevitably leads to a value-added tax and a permanent welfare state. Big government then becomes fact, and another Ronald Reagan becomes impossible. See Continental Europe.”


22 posted on 12/21/2009 8:59:34 AM PST by Califelephant
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To: Trust but Verify

>>I’m not going to be able to enjoy Christmas at all.<<

Our Lord never said life would be easy. I’ll trust in Him to make it through.

Merry Christmas my FRiend!


23 posted on 12/21/2009 9:00:49 AM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: netmilsmom
I really missed out. I got screwed at 1AM and slept through the whole thing.
24 posted on 12/21/2009 9:02:28 AM PST by JPG (Al Gore, the several million degree man.)
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To: netmilsmom

It helps to remember that our time on Earth is only a test. We’re challenged to do the right thing, even when it is difficult, uncomfortable, or unpopular to do so.

What kind of a test would it be if everything was always hunky-dorey?

Keep up the good fight. God is still in control.


25 posted on 12/21/2009 9:08:21 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

Good post!


26 posted on 12/21/2009 9:12:32 AM PST by library user
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To: ConservativeWarrior

Amen!


27 posted on 12/21/2009 9:21:11 AM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: JPG

LOL!!!!
Ain’t that the truth!


28 posted on 12/21/2009 9:24:51 AM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

The only hope is that they won’t be able to work out a passable version in conference.


29 posted on 12/21/2009 9:26:30 AM PST by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: RobRoy
A pitchfork and torches disconnect.

hmmm.

This was roughly my comment this weekend as well. Except that mine involved rope and lampposts.

The next couple of months promises to be interesting, particularly if unemployment takes another jog upward, as what I've read is predicting.

Nothing worse for politicians than angry, armed citizens that are out of work, just had most of what they have left confiscated, and have nothing better to do.

Truly, history does repeat itself, but only if those in power choose to ignore it.

30 posted on 12/21/2009 9:30:34 AM PST by wbill
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To: netmilsmom
Merry Christmas to you as well. During this time in our country, I may get down and disgusted and feel powerless to stop any of this insanity, BUT, when I remember who is really in charge I find the peace I need to be able to make it through. I pray for our young as they are the ones to pay for this mess, our poor babies what have we done?

Our Lord's will, will be done. He gives me strength.

Happy Birthday Jesus!

31 posted on 12/21/2009 9:36:38 AM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie

Amen.
It will be tough, but we will all make it through.

(I’m pretty discouraged myself, btw)


32 posted on 12/21/2009 9:48:09 AM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: Kate in Palo Alto

You are optimistic I admire that


33 posted on 12/21/2009 9:53:11 AM PST by mel
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To: wbill

For the politicians, the only thing worse than a half million losing there jobs each month is a half million running out of unemployment each month. That is a half million potential Timothy McVeighs - every month.

Eventually it will bite you.


34 posted on 12/21/2009 10:06:32 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
It showed the American people that Senators like Ben Nelson, Mary Landrieu, et al., actually have no principles and can be bought.

While it is appalling that individuals like Nelson can set aside their, ahem, principles in exchange for a payout, perhaps this suggests a winning strategy.

Those of us living in states with hard core leftist Senators have had no chance to be heard. But now we can ask our Senators, WHAT DID YOU GET FOR THE CITIZENS OF YOUR STATE?

If old lady Landrieu got $300 million for LA and Nelson got perpetual federal funding of increased Medicare costs for NE, WHAT DID YOU GET FOR US IN YOUR STATE?

This is a lose - lose for them: if they got nothing, they've proven to be worthless. If they got something, they are self-serving whores. QED.

35 posted on 12/21/2009 10:27:54 AM PST by BlueYonder
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To: Bill Dupray
The truth will stop this train wreck.

Reid and his ilk were just having a news conference with some big wig from the AMA saying how supportive the AMA is of this bill.

AMA stands alone..Here's the truth:

Another less heard of physicans association "Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, Inc." A Voice for Private Physicians Since 1943 DOES NOT SUPPORT HEALTH CARE REFORM!!

They have a great web site.

sw

36 posted on 12/21/2009 10:36:48 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Nothing I said is "wrong." They expended almost all their political capital (in terms of being re-electable) on health care. What little they have left they will expend on the other...cap and trade...amnesty...etc.

I know the real problems are yet to come...but what I said isn't wrong.

37 posted on 12/21/2009 10:41:46 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: Kenny

Americans will go back to sleep.


38 posted on 12/21/2009 10:46:06 AM PST by caww
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To: Bill Dupray
I wonder if the Democrats will be able to keep Robert "KKK" Byrd propped up for another vote?

Whenever I see Byrd I think of "Weekend at Bernie's." Has anyone taken Byrd's pulse lately?

39 posted on 12/21/2009 10:48:00 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Crisis - America Held Hostage)
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To: NELSON111

Aye!


40 posted on 12/21/2009 10:50:51 AM PST by caww
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