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Irish new energy device offers solution for UN climate talks
The Examiner ^ | December 15, 2009 | Michael Salla, Ph.D.

Posted on 12/18/2009 8:26:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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Any scientists or engineers here that can flesh this out?
1 posted on 12/18/2009 8:26:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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No engineer but on the face of it, it makes cold fusion sound like a done deal.
2 posted on 12/18/2009 8:28:42 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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“the main stumbling blocks have been rigid scientific thinking concerning violation of conservation of energy laws” which like the Law of Gravity and other physical laws, cannot be repealed, no matter how much Obama wants to.

By chance, does the company happen to be seeking money from investors?

3 posted on 12/18/2009 8:29:23 PM PST by MindBender26 (Never kick Dems when they're down. Wait 'till they're 1/2 way back up. You get much better leverage!)
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It is claimed to produce more energy than it consumes at a ratio of 3:1

Total BS.

4 posted on 12/18/2009 8:30:30 PM PST by outofstyle (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.steorn.com/orbo/

In my best Irish brogue - “Maybe we can stick Bono’s head in that magnetic energy field”


5 posted on 12/18/2009 8:36:08 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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“Total BS.”

Ohhhh...., we’ve got a DENIER!!! STONE HIM, do not let him publish, we must not let ANYONE detract from us telling the world that the laws of Thermodynamics can be repealed, or at least suspended if the right technology is used.

THERE CAN BE NO DISSENT!!!


6 posted on 12/18/2009 8:40:07 PM PST by BobL (Real Men don't use Tag Lines)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It looks like a slickly packaged version of the perpetual motion machine, is all. Timing is suspicious...

Think I’ll put my money on entropy and the 2nd law...


7 posted on 12/18/2009 8:43:32 PM PST by bigbob
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I think I would also attribute this to a surfeit of Guinness coupled with a desire to upstage Bono...


8 posted on 12/18/2009 8:48:14 PM PST by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I first ran into this company about three years ago, and thought they had a fascinating (but radical) concept for producing electrical energy.

I bookmarked them, and checked back from time to time (with a skeptical eye). I eventually wrote them off as yet another scam, so I’ll admit that I’m surprised and even a bit delighted to see that they’ve finally delivered, and now have their device ready for testing by outside labs.

I look forward to how it goes with the independent testing.


9 posted on 12/18/2009 8:48:46 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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I’d love to be prooved wrong, but..... On the face of it the thing reads like BS.


10 posted on 12/18/2009 8:49:18 PM PST by wendy1946
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If it truly delivers, they should have no need of outside funding, as all they need to do is sell electrical power to the power utility. They can buy 100KWH and send it back, getting paid for 300KWH of power, and so on.


11 posted on 12/18/2009 9:05:14 PM PST by ikka
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Oh, but you see, they need development money.

I’ll believe it when they actually measure power coming out of the device. Until then .........


12 posted on 12/18/2009 9:08:54 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: outofstyle
Total BS.

No, you are wrong.

I see several b’s and quite a few s’s in this summary from their web site, but no “BS”.

How Orbo Technology Works

Orbo is based upon time variant magnetic interactions, i.e. magnetic interactions whose efficiency varies as a function of transaction timeframes.

It is this variation of energy exchanged as a function of transaction time frame that lies at the heart of Orbo technology, and its ability to contravene the principle of the conservation of energy. Why? Conservation of energy requires that the total energy exchanged using interactions are invariant in time. This principle of time invariance is enshrined in Noether’s Theorem.

The time variant nature of Orbo interactions can be engineered using two basic techniques. The first technique utilizes a method of controlling the response time of magnetic materials to make them time variant. This is achieved by controlling the MH position of materials during permanent magnetic interactions.

The second technique decouples the Counter Electromotive Force (CEMF) from torque for electromagnetic interactions. This decoupling of CEMF allows time variant magnetic interactions in electromagnetic systems.

13 posted on 12/18/2009 9:15:50 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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[Orbo is based upon time variant magnetic interactions, i.e. magnetic interactions whose efficiency varies as a function of transaction timeframes.

It is this variation of energy exchanged as a function of transaction time frame that lies at the heart of Orbo technology, and its ability to contravene the principle of the conservation of energy. Why? Conservation of energy requires that the total energy exchanged using interactions are invariant in time. This principle of time invariance is enshrined in Noether’s Theorem.]

Damn Shazam! Why it was right in front of my eyes! Any child could see that time variant magnetic interactions are the key to perpetual motion! I coulda been rich!


14 posted on 12/18/2009 9:16:09 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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Irish science? I'm sure it makes sense after a number of pints!

Don't worry, it's BS.
Many claims have been made of machines that generate more energy than they consume, none has ever panned out.
Some of them come with elaborate explanations, sometimes rather outlandish.
It goes against known laws of physics and most scientists consider it a waste of time.
I've heard that the patent office won't even look at such applications.

1. The burden of proof is on the inventor; Build a working model and demonstrate that it functions as advertised.
2. Allow independent verification, other teams must be able to build such machines. That's to make sure no cheating was going on.

15 posted on 12/18/2009 9:20:01 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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It is claimed to produce more energy than it consumes at a ratio of 3:1, which has led to considerable skepticism from the scientific community.

That would be an understatement.

16 posted on 12/18/2009 9:20:52 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Copenhagen Climate Summit; Shovel Ready)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; FastCoyote
That's called Technobabble.
It's intended to flummox the audience, nothing else.
Call me a sceptic.
17 posted on 12/18/2009 9:30:42 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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"Call me a sceptic.

OK, You're a sceptic!

18 posted on 12/18/2009 9:48:15 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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Yeah, right!


19 posted on 12/18/2009 9:50:57 PM PST by smokingfrog (Don't mess with the mocking bird! - http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

If these fellows have already issued publicly traded stock in their “venture” now is the time to short their stock.

The have used ‘blarney’ since the time of Queen Elizabeth I to avoid the truth about things.

I am Irish.

Kiss me.


20 posted on 12/18/2009 10:00:41 PM PST by bajabaja
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