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To: Danae

“There are most definitely three types of citizenship. Naturalized, Citizen, and Natural Born citizen.”

If you could please just point to ONE single law or decision that says this, I’ll go along. As it is, I’ll go with the common sense fact that natural born citizen means citizen from birth.


106 posted on 12/14/2009 10:08:21 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

You already conceded the point in post 102.


108 posted on 12/14/2009 10:09:52 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Tublecane
As it is, I’ll go with the common sense fact that natural born citizen means citizen from birth.

An example of where common sense is faulty in deciding matters of history and law.
I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen -Rep. John Bingham, framer of the 14th Amendment, before The US House of Representatives ((Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291, March 9, 1866 ) http://grou.ps/zapem/blogs/3787

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. -Chief Justice Waite in Minor v. Happersett (1875) http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0088_0162_Z…

116 posted on 12/14/2009 10:30:46 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Tublecane

Just point to ONE single law or decision that says this, I’ll go along.

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I would like the birthers to show me where in the constitution the be-all, end-all determinant of one’s NBC status is a birth certificate. When I obtained my B.C. I found some material mistakes on it. Would that make me a fraud? That document could negate my natural born status and I could never run for president?


258 posted on 12/15/2009 9:17:18 AM PST by LussaO
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