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Goodbye from Pistolshot
Galapagos Times | December 9, 2009 | Pistolshot

Posted on 12/11/2009 8:50:14 PM PST by Phileleutherus Franciscus

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To: Lakeshark
Well, you might think for all their talk of "survival of the fittest" etc. that the fervetn atheistic evos would learn to moderate their tone when on a site which is not *primarily* dedicated to their views or interests.

A few have; most have not.

The problem is what does one do with Christianity vis-à-vis the larger culture when the majority of the culture is no longer Christian (young clueless American-Idol-ized pagans), but the Christian worldview still has the largest plurality of followers, and is ensconced in the cultural memory? (Tho' the Marxists through govt. education, the multiculturalists, the Moose-limbs, and others are doing their level best to undermine it?)

Convert one's neighbors of course: but that will take some time as teens and tweens are usually more interested in promiscuity than in self-control.

And then you have "gay rights" , abortion, etc.

The standard tome of the left is "don't force your morality on me" but they are begging the question of why they should be allowed to force their immorality on us.

For many of the issues, there is no "neutral ground" or "splitting the difference."

Cheers!

141 posted on 12/12/2009 10:31:31 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Phileleutherus Franciscus

This is a damn shame.

One of the things I’ve enjoyed most in my years reading FR has been the diversity of opinions that are contained within the conservative-republican arena.

What I’ve seen also, however, is the definition of “conservative” become narrowed and exclusive. Conservatives used to champion individual freedom, fiscal responsibility and small government. What happened? Why do we have to pass some sort of religious litmus test now?


142 posted on 12/12/2009 10:44:10 AM PST by dbwz (DISSENT IS PATRIOTIC)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

“I have no problem with the science underlying this at all.”

No, you have a problem with all the evil people applying the science without considering Genesis.

How can you, with a straight face claim that scientists would ignore data that is presented to them with actual research and data to back it up?

The only reason I can think of is that your entire argument rests on that assumption.

You think that since the entire work of “creation science” is based on the literal Genesis, that real scientists must be able to discard research and data as easily as “creation science” does.

“creation science” by itself has produced no significant scientific findings thus far to alter the scientific body of knowledge.


143 posted on 12/12/2009 10:46:11 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Gumlegs
A lot of the problem is also the inability or unwillingness of some of the more agressive creationist posters to distinguish between criticism of what they post and criticism of Christianity.

Matched by the inability or unwillingness of some of the more agressive atheists to distinguish between Christianity and illiteracy.

Why judge *either* site by the outliers -- unless the outliers have a role in making policy disproportionate to their numbers?

Cheers!

144 posted on 12/12/2009 10:51:55 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: bert
As the rind around the brain grows, a point is reached where rational thought ceases. The rind prevents rational thought from entering or leaving.

As the rind around the brain grows, a point is reached where belief, faith and trust ceases. The rind prevents piety or humility from entering or leaving.

Cheers!

145 posted on 12/12/2009 10:53:55 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: xcamel
A civil response? To *ME*?!!

(swoons)

146 posted on 12/12/2009 10:55:48 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Lando Lincoln
FR isn't the only thing that has changed: Brett Favre is now with the Vikings; you might want to consider updating your homepage ;-)

Cheers!

147 posted on 12/12/2009 10:57:14 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: RFEngineer
How can you, with a straight face claim that scientists would ignore data that is presented to them with actual research and data to back it up?

Do the words "Hadley CRU" ring a bell?

Cheers!

148 posted on 12/12/2009 10:59:41 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Texas Eagle
"March wasn't ALL that long ago."

But its longer than he has lasted on any other forum!

149 posted on 12/12/2009 11:01:14 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Lakeshark

......You have evolved...... .

Cool. Now thou hast opened the door.

How many here that deny bioevolution accept Christian evolution? Regardless of their church affiliation or present beliefs, they are the result of the evolution of Christian thought and dogma


150 posted on 12/12/2009 11:20:11 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: dbwz
What I’ve seen also, however, is the definition of “conservative” become narrowed and exclusive. Conservatives used to champion individual freedom, fiscal responsibility and small government. What happened? Why do we have to pass some sort of religious litmus test now?

Conservative has always meant pro God along with the other things that you mention, they go hand in hand, don't try and pretend that it is new, it is just the opposite, the fifth column, anti-social conservative, "conservative" is the new phenomena.

151 posted on 12/12/2009 11:54:31 AM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: bert
How many here that deny bioevolution accept Christian evolution? Regardless of their church affiliation or present beliefs, they are the result of the evolution of Christian thought and dogma

Don't play word games, bert.

"evolution" of theology is not the result of random changes among an ensemble leading to preferential selection of subsets of that ensemble by superior adaptation to natural conditions.

If anything along *that* spectrum, it would be (like automotive design or computer science) more akin to intelligent design. The Edsel and Microsoft's operating systems excepted; and notwithstanding GE's "genetical algorithms" used in efficiency optmization ("get your *own* dirt" applies).

Cheers! Cheers!

152 posted on 12/12/2009 12:02:26 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Good point... my boys have grown up considerably too! My whiskers are grey also. I can’t find it in my heart to be a Favre basher so he can stay, I guess.

All the best.


153 posted on 12/12/2009 12:11:47 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (Gee, it looks like climate change was man-made after all!)
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To: metmom

Just my very tiny .02.

I am an old earth creationist - very old! I also study the Vedas and adhere to the creation as described therein.

That said, I have much more in common with young earth creationists than evos because the main point is that God is the creator - whether He did it this way or that, within this timeframe or another, have nothing to do with how we live our lives (hopefully in accordance with His will!).

If the earth and all creaures are merely accidental and meaningless, then one’s worldview is entirely different. Basically there are two world views:

1. Everything is created by God for a purpose, and it is our duty to find His purpose and plan and live in accordance with His purpose.

2. Everything is just a meaningless accident with no God in control, and therefore everyone can craete their own “truth” and “purpose”. Which leads to the hell on earth that is quickly accelerating.

There!


154 posted on 12/12/2009 12:12:33 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Phileleutherus Franciscus

Always the victim, never the bride


155 posted on 12/12/2009 12:18:26 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Ichneumon
Frankly I find the evolutionists cranky, condescending and cocky.

They generally have good reason to be.

LOL. "You would be cranky too if you believed you were descended from ..."

156 posted on 12/12/2009 12:37:33 PM PST by gitmo (FR vs DU: n4mage vs DUmage)
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To: higgmeister
This kind of fanaticism was used by Hitler against the Jews and just about every other race and culture, by the Italians against the African Continent, and by the Japanese against the Chinese.

I think a zot in Hitler's domain differed in several regards from a zot in JimRob's domain.

157 posted on 12/12/2009 12:45:13 PM PST by gitmo (FR vs DU: n4mage vs DUmage)
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To: ansel12
Conservative has always meant pro God along with the other things that you mention

Pro-God with "God" equaling higher power of your choice, or pro-God with specific guidelines?

158 posted on 12/12/2009 1:00:40 PM PST by dbwz (DISSENT IS PATRIOTIC)
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To: dbwz

Pro God meaning that conservatives in America have always been pro religion and social conservatives, now we are getting more and more liberals trying to undercut the natural core of conservatism, by embracing conservatives on economics while trying to destroy social conservatism.

Knowing a persons position on faith will in most cases tell you which party the person votes for.


159 posted on 12/12/2009 1:07:44 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: AppyPappy

Most of you probably don’t know that, that poster was banned last night.


160 posted on 12/12/2009 1:09:33 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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