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American Thinker: Sarah Palin's Reagan Qualities
Governor Palin 4 President ^

Posted on 12/03/2009 6:45:55 AM PST by MaxCUA

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1 posted on 12/03/2009 6:45:57 AM PST by MaxCUA
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To: MaxCUA

Just like Palin, Reagan resigned without completing a single term....oh, wait...nevermind.


2 posted on 12/03/2009 6:50:01 AM PST by Huck (The Constitution--a big government boondoggle.)
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To: Huck
Sheesh. Enough with that already.
She had a reason for doing it,and she has explained herself over and over again.
Had Reagan been in the same situation I am convinced he would have done the same thing.
He was just that kind of guy. He cared about the office he held and would have done what he thought was best for it just as Sarah has.
3 posted on 12/03/2009 6:55:05 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"-George Orwell)
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To: Huck; BlackElk
Just like Palin, Reagan resigned without completing a single term

Only because he didn't win the nomination in '68. Reagan was open to being tabbed, and it was closer to happening than you might think. If he got the nomination, he would have chewed of and spat out Humphrey, and even gotten some Wallace votes. After winning, he would have resigned the governorship.
4 posted on 12/03/2009 6:55:10 AM PST by Dr. Sivana
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To: gimme1ibertee

Well, they WERE both born in February, and they both like sports, so that settles it for me.


5 posted on 12/03/2009 6:59:10 AM PST by Huck (The Constitution--a big government boondoggle.)
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Whatever works for ya,Huck.


6 posted on 12/03/2009 7:14:58 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"-George Orwell)
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To: MaxCUA
Just like Ronald Reagan, Sarah Palin never attended an Ivy League college . . .

I can't name a single great president we had that came out of the Ivy Leagues. And I can name serveral duds without breaking a sweat, including the poser there now.

7 posted on 12/03/2009 7:16:54 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Check out this list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidents_by_college_education

It’s pretty much failsafe that Ivy League=bad president. Even in the very early years, the worst presidents were ivy leaguers (Adams, Madison).


8 posted on 12/03/2009 7:49:23 AM PST by Huck (The Constitution--a big government boondoggle.)
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To: Huck

The more they compare Palin to Reagan, the more people laugh and draw votes away from her.


9 posted on 12/03/2009 7:52:08 AM PST by Bob J
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To: MaxCUA
Well one thing is for sure the I AM’s of political intelligence are sure to show up with their clubs of sarcasm putting in place those immature know nothings at the bottom of the political landscape.
10 posted on 12/03/2009 7:56:53 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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Her supporters love it. It makes me laugh and cringe all at the same time. But whatever. All the GOP nominee wannabees are pretty jokey. And I’m going to vote for whichever one comes out ahead. I’m just exercising my right to bitch.


11 posted on 12/03/2009 7:59:04 AM PST by Huck (The Constitution--a big government boondoggle.)
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To: Huck
I wouldn't consider either Madison or Adams bad presidents. For that era, though they weren't necessarily standouts among the great presidents (Washington, Jefferson, Monroe).

But your theory sure holds once college-educated presidents became the norm.

I get a particular chuckle over Columbia-- BO was the only one to finish; even the two Roosevelts had the sense to withdraw from that den of pinheads!

12 posted on 12/03/2009 8:33:35 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Huck
Also interesting: Grover Cleveland was the last president not to graduate from college. He was also the last great president who was a Democrat.

Go figure!

13 posted on 12/03/2009 8:37:40 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: MaxCUA

Jumping the gun here. Palin needs to be canonized prior to sainthood.


14 posted on 12/03/2009 8:37:55 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Vigilanteman
Well, IIRC, Adams and Madison were both one-termers. Adams, again, IIRC, gave us Chief Justice Marshall, who removed any doubt there might have been about the supreme complete and final power of the SCOTUS. He also gave us the alien and sedition acts, which are historically ignominious. Madison as president flip flopped on the national bank (was against it before he was for it) and flip flopped on standing army (against it, then for it) and I would say having the White House burned to the ground during your term in office is not exactly a benchmark of excellence :-)

Adams was a bad president because he was a big gubmint Federalist. Madison was simply a weak executive. h

15 posted on 12/03/2009 10:15:59 AM PST by Huck (The Constitution is an outrageous insult to the men who fought the Revolution." -Patrick Henry)
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For the record, John Adams lost re-election in 1800 because he tried to make the federal government too powerful. The mood of the country was such that they cut George Washington a little slack (Shay's Rebellion, Whiskey Rebellion) for doing the same thing because he was loved by all Americans. But they drew the line with John Adams when he merely tried to extend some of the same Federalist policies. By today's standards, John Adams would still be a right wing radical states rightist.

As for James Madison, he was handilly re-elected in 1812, right at the start of the war. The Federalists ended up getting blamed for the burning of Washington two years later due to their tepid support for the war and never ran a candidate for national office again. Far from being a weak executive, Madison did a yeoman's job of uniting the country and ensured we had great presidents for the next 20 years after he left office.

16 posted on 12/03/2009 12:15:52 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Madison’s the one who fled the White House while DC burned. He gets the credit for that. As for the Federalists, didn’t they basically just morph into the Whig Party, and then eventually the Republican party?


17 posted on 12/04/2009 4:52:52 AM PST by Huck (The Constitution is an outrageous insult to the men who fought the Revolution." -Patrick Henry)
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Yes, James Madison fled the White House while DC burned. But not before he and Dolly saved as much as they could. Were the supposed to stay and fight the British army?

The Whigs were no more the heirs of the Federalists than ObaMao is the heir of Andrew Jackson.

The Whigs fielded their first presidential candidate in 1836, more than 20 years after the Federalists died. You may have heard of him, the war hero William Henry Harrison who managed all of 38% of the vote against the worthless Martin Van Buren, who went on to make most historians ten worst presidents lists.

The last pure* Whig presidential candidate was another war hero, General Winfield Scott, who managed 44% against Franklin Pierce in 1852 who (unfairly, I think) also generally makes that ten worst list.

The first Republican presidential candidate was explorer John C. Fremont four years later who managed 33% against 45% for James Buchanan, who (deservingly, at least until BO) makes #1 worst president on everyone's list.

Incidently, there was a thrid guy in that contest, Millard Fillmore, the last Whig President who garnered 22%. The big issue dividing the Whigs and Republicans at the time was slavery and the expansion thereof into the new territories. The Republicans took a hard line. The Whigs generally hated the institution but wanted to see it gradually phased out in an even handed manner so as not to provoke a civil war, the very postion which Lincoln tried to sell in the 1860 election with less than stellar results. People often forget there was a middle of the road party in that election as well which was called the Constitutional Union Party and carried three border states: Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee.

So while it might be fair to say the remaining rump of the Whigs sort of morphed into the Republican Party, it is not fair to draw the same analogy between the Federalists and the Whigs because there was a clean break of 20 years and a total realignment of parties.

* Note: I say Winfield Scott was the last pure Whig candidate, because Millard Fillmore, four years later, understood the Whigs were pretty much dead and used the party label only in areas where it still had signs of life. His party was officially the American Party, dubbed by opponents as "Know Nothings". Fillmore was a far better president than history treats him, but that's another story for another day.

18 posted on 12/04/2009 8:41:02 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Actually, I recall reading a Madison biography years ago that claimed DOLLY stayed behind and saved relics and art while JAMES fled!

I agree there was a political realignment after the Federalists, around the time "sectional interests" (slavery) became the overriding issue of the day. In reality, by the time you get to Andrew Jackson, the whole Constitutional system was coming unglued.

19 posted on 12/04/2009 10:28:56 AM PST by Huck (The Constitution is an outrageous insult to the men who fought the Revolution." -Patrick Henry)
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You are correct that James Madison was hustled out of town by his cabinet while Dolly insisted on remaining behind to save some important paintings and documents from the White House. Of course, she eventually fled as well or we wouldn't have them still.

Under the chivalrous rules of war honored at the time, it was thought that Dolly would face less risk even if captured by the British whereas James would be a valuable war trophy. The president, of course, was against her remaining behind, but Dolly had other ideas. To suggest James was somehow cowardly is dead wrong.

I also think your statement that the whole Constitutional system was coming unglued when Andrew Jackson became president is a gross exaggeration. Jackson is considered one of our great presidents because he took some decisive action on things like killing the Bank of the United States. His immediate predecessor (John Q. Adams) was a nice fellow, but only a so-so president. The guy before that (James Monroe) was truly one of our greatest presidents because he ended European colonization of the Americas and the rest of the world actually respected the Monroe Doctrine up until the Bay of Pigs fiasco with a couple of minor exceptions.

The exceptions ended in disaster for the would-be colonizers. Just ask Emperor Maximilian how that French colonization of Mexico during our civil war turned out.

20 posted on 12/04/2009 11:03:29 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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