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To: Yadanuiat; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 2111USMC; 2Jedismom; A Ruckus of Dogs; AdA$tra; ...
Lord Monkton:
”And the trouble is this; if that treaty is signed, if your Constitution says that it takes
precedence over your Constitution, and you can’t resign from that treaty unless
you get agreement from all the other state parties – And because you’ll be the biggest
paying country, they’re not going to let you out of it.

So, thank you, America. You were the beacon of freedom to the world. It is a privilege
merely to stand on this soil of freedom while it is still free. But, in the next few weeks,
unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy, and your
humanity away forever. And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect
will have any power whatsoever to take it back. That is how serious it is. I’ve read the
treaty. I’ve seen this stuff about [world] government and climate debt and enforcement.
They are going to do this to you whether you like it or not. “

6 posted on 10/15/2009 6:13:38 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Diogenesis

“Treaties are made to be broken” (Bismarck). If the US returns to sanity, a way will be found to ignore or undo this foolishness.


8 posted on 10/15/2009 6:21:05 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Diogenesis

“”This [Supreme] Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty.” - Reid v. Covert, October 1956, 354 U.S. 1, at pg 17.

The Reid Court (U.S. Supreme Court) held in their Opinion that,

“... No agreement with a foreign nation can confer power on the Congress, or any other branch of government, which is free from the restraints of the Constitution. Article VI, the Supremacy clause of the Constitution declares, “This Constitution and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all the Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land...’
“There is nothing in this language which intimates that treaties and laws enacted pursuant to them do not have to comply with the provisions of the Constitution nor is there anything in the debates which accompanied the drafting and ratification which even suggest such a result...

“It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights – let alone alien to our entire constitutional history and tradition – to construe Article VI as permitting the United States to exercise power UNDER an international agreement, without observing constitutional prohibitions. (See: Elliot’s Debates 1836 ed. – pgs 500-519).

“In effect, such construction would permit amendment of that document in a manner not sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were designed to apply to all branches of the National Government and they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and Senate combined.”

Source: http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/staterights/treaties.htm


19 posted on 10/15/2009 6:39:19 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Diogenesis

Where was Lord Monkton on the issue of joining the E.U., and relinquishing British sovereignty?

I’m not dismissing he warning, just curious.


45 posted on 10/16/2009 9:46:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: Diogenesis

Bump


61 posted on 10/17/2009 8:14:50 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: Diogenesis

I have spread your excerpted quote, all over the web, along with a link to the article.


64 posted on 10/17/2009 1:17:50 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (,)
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