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1 posted on 10/14/2009 10:24:26 PM PDT by American Dream 246
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2 posted on 10/14/2009 10:28:24 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: American Dream 246
The Hawaiian answer, as it was a Democratic state and still is, was to start registering all those foreign kids by the thousands. The purpose being to tap into all those federal hundreds of millions then which would profit the state.

Very interesting point. Do you know of any good background info on how state citizenship was determined when Hawaii became a state (eg, residency requirements, etc)? And demographic data on "all those foreign kids" and their parents? And financial data on federal funding targeted for Hawaii's transition to statehood? Thanks....

3 posted on 10/14/2009 10:48:07 PM PDT by kittykat77
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To: American Dream 246

http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=2697

I am so glad that someone else is finally reporting on this!

Being from hawaii I have said a number of times, Hawaii doesn’t want this to come out or come under scrutiny because of Welfare Fraud. Thats Obama’s leverage against Hawaii.

Don’t think for an INSTANT that Obama didn’t make it very clear what the stakes were to Lingle.


4 posted on 10/14/2009 10:49:34 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: pissant; LucyT

Busy day.

Ping.


6 posted on 10/14/2009 10:56:36 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: American Dream 246

Well howdy and funnier than my version.


7 posted on 10/14/2009 11:09:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: American Dream 246
An interesting article although it is repeating the falsehood that Americans were not 'allowed' to visit Pakistan during the time period in question, alluding to some State Department 'ban' on travel. That simply is not true. If we are going to strip the bark off that little 0bastard, it has to be done with facts and accuracy.
9 posted on 10/14/2009 11:21:08 PM PDT by mkjessup (Clinton, Bush & 0bama = "See No Evil, Speak No Evil, and *EVIL* ..." (w/apologies to Bob Dole))
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To: American Dream 246

Duhh, the guvner of Hawaii and the Dept of Health director got big bribes with the promise of more if they could keep this quiet.


11 posted on 10/14/2009 11:47:10 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: American Dream 246

stating the obvious in plain talk. Even a liberal could understand this.


12 posted on 10/14/2009 11:54:54 PM PDT by Diver Dave (Of all the things I've ever lost, I miss my mind the most)
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To: American Dream 246
Obama is a lawyer. A graduate of prestigious Harvard law school no less.

Obama also considers himself a native son of Hawaii.

I don't know how many Hawaii native sons have gradauted from the famous Harvard Law School, but I would think that it would not be very many.

So, wouldn't it be wonderful if native son and Harvard Law School graduate Obama could go back to Hawaii and practice law and make Hawaii citizens even more proud of native son Obama then they already are?

But I wonder if Obama would ever dare to fill out an application to practice law in Hawaii.

1. The reason I ask this question is this: Our of curiosity, I checked google to see if the Hawaii state bar application to practice law in Hawaii was on the internet.

2. Yes, it is there. It is a pdf file. NOTE: I think I asked google something like "Hawaii bar application."

3. As I see it, if Obama ever dared to try to practice law in Hawaii, I think that he might have at least one problem filling out the state bar application.

4. The problem is this: The application asks the applicant if he has ever used other names in his life.

5. The application says that if you have used other names, you must list the names and list when you used them.

6. My point is this: As I see it, Obama would have to write that at some point in his life he used the name "Soetoro", because there is obvious evidence that Obama used the name Soetoro when he was a little boy and living in Indonesia with his stepfather, Indonesian citizen Soetoro, and his mother.

7. That is, as I see it, if Obama filled out the Hawaii state bar application and did NOT list "Soetoro" as a name he used in the past, Obama could be in a lot of legal trouble.

8. NOTE: I tried to cut and paste the part in the Hawaii state bar application where it asks about the names an applicant used in his past, but I couldn't do it, because I think the pdf file was secured, and my computer skills are limited.

9. So if someone here who knows how to cut and paste a secured pdf file could cut and paste the section in the Hawaii state bar application where the application has to list the names he has used in the past, could you please do it for me? Thanks.

10. Again, I don't think that Harvard law school graduate Obama would ever fill out a Hawaii state bar application---he would probably come up with some lame excuse as to why he doesn't want to fill out the Hawaii state bar application---because he would have to list "Soetoro" as one of the names that he has used in the past.

11. However, as I see it, an admission by Obama that he ever used "Soetoro" in his past would be political suicide.

12. In fact, it would not only be political suicide, it would also be clear evidence that Obama had been a liar and fraud all along.

14 posted on 10/15/2009 2:23:53 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: American Dream 246

What birth certificate? We only have been told it exists.


15 posted on 10/15/2009 2:28:57 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: American Dream 246
The answer is: in 1961 the American public had not yet been herded by Teddy Kennedy and socialists into providing welfare benefits to illegals. Hawaii had a large population of illegals who were slave labor, but were a huge burden to the system in poverty and crime...The Hawaiian answer, as it was a Democratic state and still is, was to start registering all those foreign kids by the thousands.

That's an interesting allegation. Do you have any evidence that it is true? Unfortunately, the author of this piece fails to provide any.

21 posted on 10/15/2009 1:12:50 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: American Dream 246
The place Obama chose to be dumped into by the Dunhams, was like many of the colleges in that 1979 period in tapping into government resources of free money to "educate" foreigners.

Another interesting allegation, for which there is zero evidence.

FYI, it is generally much easire to get financial aid, either Federal of private, if you are a US citizen. There are very few scholarships available for foreign students.

If you want to allege that Obama was studying on a US government scholarship for foreign students, you have to identify some plausible scholarships that he might have gotten. Can you?

22 posted on 10/15/2009 1:16:27 PM PDT by curiosity
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Here's a doozy for the squad.
24 posted on 10/15/2009 1:20:38 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: American Dream 246
Continuing-to-read-while-I-reload ping!


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Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

27 posted on 10/15/2009 1:42:02 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: American Dream 246
Interesting theory, repeated ad nauseum on birther blogs.

A question: where's the proof?

Why is it that these allegations of massive illegal Hawaiian registration of the foreign-born never present any corroboration in fact?

Is it enough to simply throw mud, and see if it sticks? Has Berg, Taitz or any one of these others bringing lawsuits even bothered to do any research to bring evidence to the court?

Not that I've seen.

32 posted on 10/15/2009 2:29:53 PM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: American Dream 246

Nice piece of misdirection journalism ... Barry was an Indonesian in 1979 when he went to Occi. His mother’s divorce pleading shows he was the legal responsibility of Lolo Soetoro in 1979 and all the way until 1980 when her divorce was granted. He was also more likely going by the name Barry Soetoro, Indonesian, when he applied to Occi. But the journmalist seems to want to misdirect readers to a fantasy claim.


43 posted on 10/16/2009 11:26:49 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: American Dream 246; LucyT; STARWISE

thanks for the hat-tip STARWISE.

Lucy, Did we miss this one?

I first saw this article on another website, dated March 2009. Quoted from it several times, but now it’s gone!

Good to have another source.


48 posted on 10/22/2009 11:20:36 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: American Dream 246
. They are generally conduits of establishing globalist brainwashing into children and as dry cleaning of billions of dollars in funds in "research".

First though, if you are eventually to take over, the moral breakdown of America is needed. Evolution the perfect vehicle. Shove that down every college educated person and soon The Bible will have to be considered a myth. Long before the global warming debacle, yes, it was the evolution debacle. Millions of Americans have been duped into believing the lie. It's all down hill for them now.

51 posted on 10/22/2009 11:46:15 PM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: American Dream 246

Hawii and 0’b lucked into a host of Americans VERY EAGER and willing to commit TREASON, and they’re still eagerly doing so. ( Thank you John Roberts, SCOTUS.)


63 posted on 10/23/2009 2:40:34 AM PDT by Waco (Kiss an illegal aliens' axx and buckle yer seat belt, it's the law.)
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To: American Dream 246

I too am glad this is being discussed, now obviously this must be given main stream coverage as well.

But there is a problem here, its like trying to remove the casinos from Las Vegas, it eventually leads to the person being cactus fertilizer.

Hawaii lives by having a squeaky clean tropical paradise image, and news like this doesn’t exactly instill confidence.

Tthe bright side in this of course is that its easy to obtain more records of students from Hawaii entering colleges across America, my suggestion is to home in on any football scholarships, Polynesians were highly prized for football players, not all were American citizens.

The higher officials should in the public’s best interest and especially concerning future travelers should admit this immediately, before they get the brutal onslaught of inquisitive accusations.


70 posted on 10/23/2009 7:41:30 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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