Was Glenn Beck Showing Contempt For Chuck Norris?

Amerisrael ^

[oldvike]

Guilty as charged. No, I did not read it all.

[NautiNurse]

How I hate that we have an Obamanation of desolation in the Whitehouse because you voted for the fake conservative Romney / McCain over Huckabee.

Huckabee campaigned for POTUS as a holier-than-thou prepared to tell you what to eat (notice his expanded girth today), and how much executives should earn, among other liberal platforms. He was selling you snake oil just like Obama.

Your religious bigotry reveals that James Carville is likely correct--the Democrats will rule for generations now.

Glenn Beck has done far more for the conservative cause than your religious prejudice and whining.

[Amerisrael]

It is not religious prejudice. That’s what many liberal Afro-Americans claim when you take issue with Obama because of his foreign policy appeasement, or his pushing for marxist nationalization of healthcare. “Your racist”.

Or the Islamists who are angry when the Koran or islam is challenged. “Your racist”. An “Islamophobe”.

There way of diverting attention from the truth.
And perhaps your way?

[Amerisrael]

It is not religious prejudice. That’s what many liberal Afro-Americans claim when you take issue with Obama because of his foreign policy appeasement, or his pushing for marxist nationalization of healthcare. “Your racist”.

Or the Islamists who are angry when the Koran or islam is challenged. “Your racist”. An “Islamophobe”.

Their way of diverting attention from the truth.
And perhaps your way?

[rob777]

"Beck was ever afterwards extremely anti-Huckabee."


A lot of limited government conservatives were opposed to Huckabee as he was a proponent of big government.

[NautiNurse]

There [sic] way of diverting attention from the truth. And perhaps your way?

The truth that the President of the United States should tell you what to eat and how much money you should earn as Huckabee campaigned? What are you talking about?

[Erasmus]

And you’ll notice that Beck and Obozo are using the same hand gesture. The gesture is is like the position an engineer would hold a drafting pen. As you know, engineers also use a compass which is a well known freemason symbol.

I thought they were illustrating each other's, uhhh, size.

[Erasmus]

It depends on what the meaning of......
"Obama"
is.

[gwilhelm56]

**“Your racist”.
Or the Islamists who are angry when the Koran or islam is challenged. “Your racist”. An “Islamophobe”.**

I BELIEVE the KORAN is arabic Porn and ISLAM is a TERRORIST CULT...

Islamophobe, maybe... you effers will NOT challenge MY right to worship as I choose... WE had ONE CRUSADE of this ... YOU WANT ANOTHER??

I’ll take my free speech.. if they don’t like it... I’ll just buy more AMMO ... no problem

[Dr. Thorne]

I support Beck's freedom of religion as well as yours. Saying that I believe a particular religion to be a cult is not to say people shouldn't have the freedom to practice it. I couldn't care less if someone thinks my belief is cultish. Suggesting that because I believe some religions are cults, that is somehow the same thing as suggesting they should not have the freedom to practice their faiths is completely dishonest and putting words into my mouth.

My belief about Mormonism is that it is an authoritarian cult that controls the lives of it's adherents. It is a very weird faith obvious built on the lies of a violent scoundrel, Joseph Smith. Those who accept it don't have the religious rigor to question it's precepts, but they are very willing to accept the worldly benefits it offers. As much as I dislike McCain, I would choose him any day over Romney the grinning game show host.

Your desciption of Reagan and Lincoln is dishonest. They both openly spoke the name of Jesus as Savior. Most of the others (Nixon, Kennedy) did not live or govern within the denominational strictures imposed by their faiths.

I hope you respect my freedom of speech as I express my beliefs. It sounds like you don't.

[altair]

As an article at Weasel Zippers points out, among Islamists there is no greater insult than pointing the soles of one's shoes at someone. Obama certainly knew this. Did Glenn Beck?

Someone gets a big 0 for reading comprehension. Weasel Zippers did not point that out because it isn't true. It's a general insult throughout Asia. It has nothing to do with a specific religion.

The ultimate Islamic insult is a gesture with the left hand. The right hand is used for eating, the left hand is used for cleaning the place where the sun don't shine after one has done one's business.

[altair]

Yes, it's for real. And yes, it probably was offensive to Chuck.

Aiming the soles of your feet at anyone in Asia is an insult.

[altair]

What stupidity. Beck isn’t a muslim, and he could care less about what muslims view as a sign of disrespect.

You sound like The Ugly American. It's not a Muslim sign of disrespect, it's a general Asian thing. "A little kindness goes a long ways".

How would you feel if we were talking to face to face and when you were in the middle of a sentence, I just turned around and started walking away? That's about the same in terms of politeness.

[altair]

No. In order for it to be an insult, you need one or two Muslims to participate. Even then it may not be an insult. Last I heard, neither Norris nor Beck are muslims.

Hey, at least you got one thing right there. On the video both Norris and Beck eat M & Ms picked up with their left hands and a Muslim would never do that.

[piytar]

I am sick and tired of always being expexted to care how someone else wants to misinterpret normal American behavior. Why do we always have to be the “culturally sensitive” ones? It’s a two way street. Crossing your legs on top of a desk is a normal American male sign of casual relaxation and comfort.

Or rather it should be a two way street. It isn’t. Until it is, I frankly don’t care how someone from some other culture wants to misinterpret my behavior. Now, if they reciprocate, that’s a different matter.

In short, I won’t show submission. Mutual respect? OK. If that makes me an ugly American, so be it.

/SEVERLY edited from original response

[piytar]

Oh, and to be clear, the rules when I visit another culture are to conform to their norms. Apparently, we Americans aren’t afforded that same respect at home. To H#ll with that!

[altair]

I am sick and tired of always being expexted to care how someone else wants to misinterpret normal American behavior.

That's up to you. It would still behoove you to understand just what it means when a Muslim (or someone raised as a Muslim as in the case of His Awesomeness) gestures his left hand at you (or vice versa).

Most people of the world, particularly in Asia and including the Middle East perceive the soles of another's feet pointed in one's direction to be a deadly insult.

[Amerisrael]

From the article linked to at Weasel Zippers:

“Aluf Benn, a commentator for the Israeli Haaretz newspaper weighed in: “As an enthusiast of Muslim culture, Obama surely knows there is no greater insult in the Middle East than pointing the soles of one’s shoes at another person.”

Your splitting hair.

[egannacht]

Your initial posts:
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To: Amerisrael

I sincerely doubt this had any meaning for Beck. However, for those who oppose Romney in part because of his Mormonism (that would include me), they should remember that Beck is a Mormon as well.

To me, Mormonism is a cult and an insult to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in that they use His name, but make for themselves a false Gospel. Because of this, although I appreciate Beck's willingness to take on the leftist establishment, I cannot trust him.

13 posted on 10/10/2009 1:10:23 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)

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To: egannacht

I support Beck's freedom of religion as well as yours. Saying that I believe a particular religion to be a cult is not to say people shouldn't have the freedom to practice it. I couldn't care less if someone thinks my belief is cultish. Suggesting that because I believe some religions are cults, that is somehow the same thing as suggesting they should not have the freedom to practice their faiths is completely dishonest and putting words into my mouth.

My belief about Mormonism is that it is an authoritarian cult that controls the lives of it's adherents. It is a very weird faith obvious built on the lies of a violent scoundrel, Joseph Smith. Those who accept it don't have the religious rigor to question it's precepts, but they are very willing to accept the worldly benefits it offers. As much as I dislike McCain, I would choose him any day over Romney the grinning game show host.

Your desciption of Reagan and Lincoln is dishonest. They both openly spoke the name of Jesus as Savior. Most of the others (Nixon, Kennedy) did not live or govern within the denominational strictures imposed by their faiths.

I hope you respect my freedom of speech as I express my beliefs. It sounds like you don't.

50 posted on 10/11/2009 11:08:00 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)

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My response:
Lincoln and Reagan were non-sectarian. Look up word, because it's apparent you are confused by the definition. They were non-sectarian because they did not check off one particular sect (Catholic, Marion-Catholic, Syriac Orthodox, Lutheran, Cathari, Hussite), or religious creed (Judaism, Hindi, Rostafarian) as a specific creed. Nor does the US consitution require you to accept any such creeds. Let me repeat that for you to comprehend: The US Constitution does not require you to accept a specific denomination, sect, creed, Jesus Christ as savior, the existence of a specific deity, the worship of spirits of dead ancestors, or even the existence of a deity, in order to serve as a representative, judge, or president. And history proves we had numerous presidents that you, in your infinite tolerance, would call them cult-like creeds that dishonor or disgrace your idea of true religion. As for Reagan, his biography points to certain influential family members being fundamentalist while others (gasp in shock) accepted seventh day teachings (oh no cultish Judaic christianity--the horror). And Lincoln? Lincoln most certainly did not call any sect or belief his creed and mental home. Most historians define his religious views as "seeker," much like Roger Williams, reading and comprehending religious texts with an open mind and no specific agenda attached.

Further, the presidents' creed or lack thereof, mentioned in my initial post, are an accurate description of their personal creeds, never their official creed pushed as doctrine onto citizens of a free United States. This is a great thing about our founding fathers and the constitution they created; it proves we do not live in a theocracy nor does our constitution allow a theocracy. End of debate.

But let's get back to your quote "...Mormonism is that it is an authoritarian cult that controls the lives of it's adherents. It is a very weird faith obvious built on the lies of a violent scoundrel, Joseph Smith." So that I may understand your dogmatism, your mysterious faith holds no authoritative cult-like biases that drive you to make this statement (which offends conservatives that just happen to be or know mormons), nor does your unstated religious affiliation guide your hositility towards Romney, Beck "and cults" found in your initial statements? Thank you, you made my point clearer. And my assertion in my initial post stands better addressed by your contrast.


BTW, I am not a Mormon.

[Dr. Thorne]

I sincerely doubt this had any meaning for Beck. However, for those who oppose Romney in part because of his Mormonism (that would include me), they should remember that Beck is a Mormon as well.

To me, Mormonism is a cult and an insult to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in that they use His name, but make for themselves a false Gospel. Because of this, although I appreciate Beck's willingness to take on the leftist establishment, I cannot trust him.

[Dr. Thorne]

I support Beck's freedom of religion as well as yours. Saying that I believe a particular religion to be a cult is not to say people shouldn't have the freedom to practice it. I couldn't care less if someone thinks my belief is cultish. Suggesting that because I believe some religions are cults, that is somehow the same thing as suggesting they should not have the freedom to practice their faiths is completely dishonest and putting words into my mouth.

My belief about Mormonism is that it is an authoritarian cult that controls the lives of it's adherents. It is a very weird faith obvious built on the lies of a violent scoundrel, Joseph Smith. Those who accept it don't have the religious rigor to question it's precepts, but they are very willing to accept the worldly benefits it offers. As much as I dislike McCain, I would choose him any day over Romney the grinning game show host.

Your desciption of Reagan and Lincoln is dishonest. They both openly spoke the name of Jesus as Savior. Most of the others (Nixon, Kennedy) did not live or govern within the denominational strictures imposed by their faiths.

I hope you respect my freedom of speech as I express my beliefs. It sounds like you don't.