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Maybe we have reason for concern. FReep this.
1 posted on 10/07/2009 7:11:45 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite
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To: Beloved Levinite
... an experimental vaccine which contain ingredients found in spermicides, cleaners, and cosmetics ...

You mean like water? I know, let's incite a riot of the uneducated by using bad science, that will solve so many problems. The fact is, this vacine is made using the same methods, and tested using the same FDA proceedures that have been in place for over a decade.

Now, let's apply some 'real world' thought, shall we. We all know that viri and bacteria mutate. We also know that the H1N1 is particularily nasty because it's new and no human on the planet (who has not either already had it, or had the vacine) has any natural immunity to the H1N1 bug. Right now, it's relatively benign; however the mutant that comes knocking on our doors next year may be a whole lot more serious. I'd rather have SOME immunity to that bug, than no immunity at all.

But, it's your life - live, or suffer and die in agony - your choice. Me, I want to get H1N1, or preferably the vacine, before this bug mutates.

2 posted on 10/07/2009 7:18:58 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Beloved Levinite

Ping!


4 posted on 10/07/2009 7:22:25 AM PDT by Ballygrl
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To: Beloved Levinite

Great. First 9/11 Truthers and now vaccine Truthers. The whole website is anti-vaccine hysteria.


6 posted on 10/07/2009 7:26:04 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Beloved Levinite

You people want to get the shot? Get it. I have done too much research on this subject and there is no way in hell I am taking it. Besides, I don’t take any flu shots and don’t get sick. You can take precautions yourself to prevent gettng it.This H1N1 Flu is manmade.


8 posted on 10/07/2009 7:31:34 AM PDT by moonrush23 (h)
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To: Beloved Levinite

FUD!


11 posted on 10/07/2009 7:37:40 AM PDT by Sparticus (Libs, they're so open minded that their brains leaked out.)
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To: Beloved Levinite

“Novartis, a bio-pharmaceutical company that manufactures the vaccine, is recommending that children participating in the trial receive two doses of an experimental vaccine which contain ingredients found in spermicides, cleaners, and cosmetics along with thimerosal and squalene (MF59)”

Squalene has caused rats to develop rear end paralysis in some lab test .
It’s also suspected to have caused a lot of the Gulf War Syndrome symptoms in Gulf War Vets who were given Anthrax shots contaminated with it .

Hey with all the pc about testing on animals going around they have to test on something ... obviously the left values animals more than human life so why put anything past them


12 posted on 10/07/2009 7:38:47 AM PDT by Lera
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To: Beloved Levinite

Even though the news emerging each day about the “Swine Flu Pandemic” is increasingly alarming and unbelievable (not the about the “Pandemic” itself… since it’s fizzled… but the preparations)…

Even though the news is hyped and scary, maybe it’s just me, but I feel as if I’m in a calm… a calm before a very bad Storm.

The Government has prepared for this flu as if they knew something we still don’t.

Exercises, Stockpiling, Guns, Mass Graves, Laws, Level 6, Billions Spent, Legal Umbrellas, Jails/Morgues/Hospitals on standby, and Military on alert…

Is there going to be a Zombie attack, for crying out loud???
Some things, like the gigantic mass-grave sites appearing around the Country (watch the videos), were started LONG before the “Pandemic”… kind of like the Patents for the vaccine and the virus itself… both before the “Pandemic”.

All for a no-pop dud (so far) of a flu… after months of exposure

Something’s not right with this entire scenario…

Stay informed, close to God, prepared, and DO NOT TAKE THE SHOT!


13 posted on 10/07/2009 7:38:56 AM PDT by moonrush23 (h)
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To: Beloved Levinite

Oh please!

This crap makes us here on FR look like a bunch of fringe nut jobs.


15 posted on 10/07/2009 7:43:26 AM PDT by Nik Naym (I remember when the United States was a free country. I feel old.)
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To: Beloved Levinite
This article is a bunch of hooey and half-truths. Europeans have approved tiny amounts of squalene in some vaccines, including the new H1N1 vaccine, after appropriate testing and years of use. I don't discount a certain amount of concern about vaccines in general, and always encourage people to be advocates for themselves, but let's stick to facts. There is NO squalene in US vaccines. There is a tiny and much reduced amount of thimerosal in live attenuated flu vaccines, because they do have to preserve the vaccine somehow. No scientific evidence links thimerosal to any problems. (Go to CDC website for more info on this topic.)

Even so, children or anyone with Down’s syndrome or other mitochondrial defects might be susceptible to vaccine injury by another means. The immune system and nervous system are slammed hard by vaccines, especially combined vaccines like MMR and DTP. Defense requires active mitochondria, which have not fully matured in young children and are weakened in Down’s syndrome. More info on this available by searching the National Library of Medicine at pubmed.com.

17 posted on 10/07/2009 7:44:29 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Beloved Levinite; All

This kind of crap has been talked about and shown to be a fraud before.

Look, I was initially concerned before, but not anymore.

It’s the same vaccine, just with a different variant of the virus.

The regular flu vaccine is fine and so is this.


21 posted on 10/07/2009 7:54:13 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Beloved Levinite
Guys, guys, I know we all love a good conspiracy theory, but I am telling you - you do not want to get this bug. My wife has been bedridden for 4 days with the swine flu. It is some nasty stuff. Very healthy 40 something triathlete. I have never seen her this sick. Luckily, the rest of the family has not come down with it. I hardily recommend getting the vaccine - I know I am after seeing her suffer.
23 posted on 10/07/2009 7:58:56 AM PDT by ArizonaJacks
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To: Beloved Levinite

Some years ago, when my kids were little, we were in the pediatrician’s office and he was about to give my daughter an oral polio vaccine and I commented that I would probably need to get my wife vaccinated too. At that moment he paused and said that he couldn’t give the vaccine until several weeks after my wife got a polio shot, because there would be a danger to my wife from the oral vaccine given to our daughter.
Patients given weakened oral polio vaccines shed viruses can infect people who do not have immunity. In the USA virtually everyone has had polio shots or oral vaccines and there aren’t that many people who haven’t had any vaccine, so it’s not a problem. My wife, foreign born and raised, never had any childhood immunizations (she does now).
So we went and got my wife immunized and then were cleared for the vaccines for my daughter.

I wonder how this H1N1 oral vaccine works. If it follows the normal route of oral weakened virus systems, will the vaccinated person be giving H1N1 to all their friends?


30 posted on 10/07/2009 8:12:42 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (http://republicans.oversight.house.gov/media/pdfs/20090723ACORNReport.pdf)
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To: Beloved Levinite

Totally agree with your post.

Vaccines have proven successful in eradicating many diseases and staving off others.

The Piggly Wiggly vaccine was not rushed into production. We had the swine flu in 1976 and a vaccine for it. However, there more people suffered from the side effects of the vaccine itself, than died from the swine flu itself.

The current version of vaccine has not been rushed so much as it has been repackaged, with production ramping up to meet the flu season.

There have been no human trials to test for efficacy and the percentage of expected relief.

There have been no human trials to determine what the side effects are and what the expected census numbers might be for each side effect.

Further, the state of Washington has approved the use of mercury as a transmitting medium. What are the side effects of injecting a human with mercury? How many children will come down with autism as a result?

To compound all this Tom Foolery many state departments of health are issuing statements of caution regarding the severity of the flu.

The State of Idaho issued a statement that, in effect, said the swine may not be any more virulent than any other strain, of which there as many as 15 each flu season. They further stated that studies have shown that swine flu is milder than previously thought and that most victims will recover faster than if they had other strains.

To compound all this I am reposting the following, which I posted last week:

Really? Really? Read it? Oh aren’t you clever. How about sitting across from someone who has told me the story plenty of times. Yeah, she is 99 and 4 months. I have heard it all and from her sister.

There is no reason to take the shot. NONE.

You are being scammed by the drug companies.

Let’s get some things real clear about some things. They have been indemnified by the government from any and all law suits. If their drug causes injury to you and your loved one, are you willing to forgo your right to sue for injury or death? You don’t care? Oh! Hey it is your life, but you should know they have not done any trials to measure efficacy rates or percentage of expected side effects or what those side effects will be.

In fact, the swine flu is not new, as you know. However, are you aware of the swine flu of 1976 and the complications from that little fiasco? Well more people came down with Gulliane Barr Syndrome than got sick with the swine flu.

Hope it doesn’t happen to you or your family but who knows.

The drug companies have done no testing and you won’t find out until aferward. Now check this. The drug companies are so smart and have done so much testing, They cannot figure out if you eed 1 shot, 2 shots or 3 shots.

Yep, at first they were saying a single dose will suffice. Well, since they are indemnified why not say “you may require a booster shot” to ensure the effectiveness. Now for the last three weeks they have been saying “You may require 3 shots”. Why?

Hell there is money in this and as far as the company is concerned it is free money. They cannot be sued and this is a zero/no risk opportunity for the executives and shareholders. Oh and if that weren’t enough, there are so many doctors and Secretaries of Health saying in effect:
“The swine flu is not as virulent as first thought. In fact, the effects are milder than other strains of the flu and recovery seems to be quicker” (Idaho Department of Health)sic.

I can’t find the draft of another post with the quotes from authorities but when I do I will compile them into a new post. Finally, the following videos demonstrate that we are, in fact, repeating history and it is a pointed reminder of what a scam the Swine Flu is.

It is not new and many people took vaccinations for it in the Mid 70’s. There were many who suffered terribly.

The Current scam for immunization by the Drug Companies
exempts them from lawsuit.

Why? No human trials have been done to determine efficacy or mortality rates.

Watch the first video. It is only 3 minutes long and will leave you informed about your plan and choices should this “Pandemic” actually appear.
Ten Things Your Not Supposed to know about the Swine Flu Vaccine (Operation Kill-Shot)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUEIls5Ncf0&feature=related

60 minutes - SWINE FLU VACCINE WARNING - Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lcJt4jX1Vo

60 minutes - SWINE FLU VACCINE WARNING - Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4c9Is1T3z4&feature=related

As an aside I spent 10 days in Mexico and it sucked having the entire country shut down but, believe me, I shook every hombres hand and hugged the Senoritas(cuz I like em’).

Know what? I know at least 100 people that live down there year round and the only thing any one caught was fish. The flu can be can kill and good hygiene is your friend. But being forced to take an injection against your will and indemnifying the producers?

F-That.


31 posted on 10/07/2009 8:13:12 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Beloved Levinite

This vaccine will sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids.


33 posted on 10/07/2009 8:37:46 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Beloved Levinite
This is tin-foil-hat nonsense.

I just did extensive research on the CDC site on the possibility of adjuvants in the H1N1 vaccine, since this is the issue that concerns me the most.

It concerns me because it is widely acknowledged that adjuvants in feline vaccines have induced an epidemic of hyperthyroidism and injection-site sarcomas in cats. As a consequence, I no longer vaccinate my cats, which are mostly indoors anyway, unless there is a specific threat in my neighborhood. Mass vaccinations are mainly to protect the general population and not the specific animal anyway. Furthermore, I use only adjuvant-free (Purevax) vaccines.

Cat Vaccinations

Considering I have serious immune system problems already, I was horrified to read the rumors of adjuvants in the H1N1 vaccine. However, upon investigation, I discovered that none of these rumor-mongering sites are credible in general, most being of the tin-foil-hat variety. Furthermore, extensive research on the CDC's H1N1 page by searching for "h1n1 adjuvants" shows that no FDA-licensed H1N1 vaccine in the U.S. currently contains adjuvants, nor has any U.S. FDA-approved influenza vaccine ever contained an adjuvant. Influenza vaccines can contain adjuvants only if the Emergency Use Authorization act is invoked in the case of an unexpected pandemic. The purpose of adding adjuvants at this point would be to stretch a limited supply of vaccine and/or to make existing vaccines more potent against its target if existing vaccines were not working well because of mutations or other reasons.

Also, the intranasal vaccine, which is single dose, does not contain thimerosal, and single-dose injections free from thimerosal will also be available. So from an adjuvant perspective, the U.S. H1N1 vaccines are safe, and single-dose vaccines can be obtained without mercury-based preservatives. While no mercury is good in the human body, just keep in mind that the University of Rochester reports that a tuna fish sandwich contains more mercury than a vaccine. Quite frankly, I would be more concerned about aduvants, which indeed are contained in several childhood vaccines.

37 posted on 10/07/2009 9:56:25 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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To: Beloved Levinite

http://freedomforall.net/russell-l-blaylock-m-d-take-d3-not-the-swine-flu-vaccine/

Dr. Russell Blaylock says DO NOT TAKE THE VACCINE which is more dangerous than the flu itself and suggests taking 5000 IU of Vitamin D3 now and 15,000 IU when it starts to spread.

http://www.newsmax.com/health/vaccine_swine_flu/2009/07/07/232717.html


39 posted on 10/07/2009 10:57:07 AM PDT by Downyoceanhon
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A friend sent me this from the FDA...
40 posted on 10/07/2009 4:19:37 PM PDT by TeknoBeck (I've upped my standards, so up yours...)
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