Posted on 10/06/2009 7:12:21 PM PDT by kellynla
Ger your face out of the Kenyan’s lap for a change. What a novel idea that is.
Did you notice how one or two tried to taunt info out of me the other evening when I stated that an anomoly shows on the first exhibit the obama posted at his campaign website, and the anomoly shows int he second exhibit still on his website, but it is not on the imagery posted now at Factcheck.org, yet factcheck posted the first two exhibits and claimed they were genuine and the thing they now exhibit is the same as the images shown at barry’s wensite during the campaign? It really got under their snakey skin that I wouldn’t post the screen capture of the first exhibit and tell them what the anomoly is. They had to be satisfied witht he little black dot int he upper left quadrant. And anyone can follow that item by just clicking on the Israeli insider website. ... Lord forgive me, I sure enjoyed their frustration that evening.
LOL! They give themselves away when they do that. I love it that they don’t see any of the really good stuff, just enough on the open forum to mess with their minds.
Thanks for that tidbit of information.
Now, could you please cite the legislation that defines natural born citizen as you describe?
Congress has no authority to codify it. It is what it is and it ain't a natural-born British subject.
Why are you agitating for unConstitutional legislation?
That is self-evidently anti-American.
Art Bell is an Obama whore; he’s on your side.
And yet we have a president whose foreign father is a matter of public record and was sworn into office by the highest court in the land.
As you said, it is what it is.
Oh, so Art Bell believes that Obama was born in Hawaii?
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Most of the time, I respect and listen to people like tv hosts Hannity and Limbaugh, because they jump all over liar and fraud Obama when they get a chance.
1. Still, I consider them a coward when it comes to discussing this Obama eligibility issue.
2. They seem to back away from this Obama eligiblility issue as if it were the plague, and as if it were some hideous family secret that family members were not allowed to talk about for fear of getting a physical and verbal beating.
3. For instance, I hope that all these talk show hosts, like Dobbs and Hannity and Beck, won't suddenly take credit once this Obama birth certificate issue explodes in Obama's face when the 2012 presidential campaign comes around.
4. For instance, why can't these talk hosts show some courage and come right out and say something like this:
"Until Obama and Hawaii provides---voluntarily or involuntarily---the public with Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate, then I say that Obama was NOT born in Hawaii and that he is NOT eligible to be President. So, Obama, if you have a problem with that, go ahead and sue me in court, where you will have to finally show your Hawaii long form birth certificate in court."
5. Yes, I say that talk show people like Hannity, O'Reilly, Beck, and Limbaugh are cowards, because they shy away from the issue of Obama's birth Hawaii birth certificate and presidential eligibility instead of putting daily, continuous pressure on Obama and Hawaii to release Obama's long form birth certificate.
6. So again, I say this: I hope that when this Obama birth certificate issue explodes in Obama's face---especially during the 2012 presidential campaign---these cowardly talk show hosts like Hannity, O'Reilly, and Beck don't suddenly try to take credit for the explosion, because they absolutely would have had nothing to do with such an explosion.
7. What a bunch of wimps and self-centered cowards are talk show hosts like Hannity, O'Reilly, and Beck when it comes to this Obama Hawaii birth certificate issue.
Excellent article
It's in the article, the definition from the words of the Founding Father of the 14th Amendment:
"In 1866, John A. Bingham, chief framer of 14th amendment wrote: “every human being born within the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of the Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.”
Bingham's definition follows that to Vattel's and was employed by the Senate Resolution SR511.
Obama meets at best only one of the three requirements for natural born citizenship -- and the Senate and Congress and the courts know it -- but the fraud and the charade continues.
BTW -- Vattel's definition had an exception for those born abroad while their citizen parents were out of the country on the business of the nation [diplomats and military].
Oops, there are several cases that say otherwise. You have not been doing your research.
1. Still, I consider them cowards when it comes to discussing this Obama eligibility issue.
2. They seem to back away from this Obama eligibility issue as if it were the plague, and as if it were some hideous family secret that family members were not allowed to talk about for fear of getting a physical and verbal beating.
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If I was a famous tv or radio talk show host, I would try to put pressure on Obama and Hawaii officials to release Obama's long form birth certificate by putting up a sign like the following in my studio:
"Below this sign is the number of days that have gone by and still Obama has not released his long form Hawaii birth certificate:"
1. Then I would put up a new number each day between now and the Presidential election in Nov. 2012 until Obama and Hawaii officials finally release Obama's long form birth certificate.
2. For instance, if I started today---Oct. 7, 2009---Oct. 7 would be day one, and I would hang the number "1" somewhere in my studio.
3. Tomorrow, Oct. 8, would be number "2", and I would keep adding a new number each day until Obama and Hawaii officials released Obama's long form birth certificate.
4. I got the idea from David Letterman. Several years ago, David would put up calendars to see how many days would pass before some famous people finally visited his show.
I think one of those people was Oprah Winfrey.
5. My point is this:
If I were a famous tv and radio talk host like Hannity, Beck, and Dobbs, I would try to put tremendous pressure on Obama and Hawaii officials by putting up a calendar to see how long it was going to take for Obama and Hawaii officials to release Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate.
"Now, could you please cite the legislation that defines natural born citizen as you describe?""It's in the article, the definition from the words of the Founding Father of the 14th Amendment: "
"In 1866, John A. Bingham, chief framer of 14th amendment wrote: “every human being born within the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of the Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.”
"Bingham's definition follows that to Vattel's and was employed by the Senate Resolution SR511."
None of the three sources you cite are "legislation". They aren't law. And they don't say what you purport.
Bingham: This is a speech given by Bingham. Why would anyone think a speech is a better legal source than the text of the Ammendment itself? It carriers no legal weight. However, it also doesn't support your argument. All Bingham is talking about is the same exception written into the 14th itself. The 14th excepts those not "under the jurisdiction" of the United States. That exception is well established and means diplomats and invading soldiers.
Vattel: Vattel was a Swiss philosopher writing about the principles of "nations". He's not a legal authority and his book is not a legal cite. However, he also doesn't support your argument. Becuase he's not writing about English law in that passage. He's writing more generally and is talking about other countries. A couple of paragraphs down from that passage, he specifically points out how the rules in England are different, and being born on the soil is sufficient.
SR511: Is a non-binding resolution that did not create any definition. It simply acknowledged the facts of McCain's own birth and declared him to be a natural born citizen. By your reading, it would have the effect of declaring that a natural born citizen would have to share all the facts related there. That they would all have to have been born of parents out of the country on military duty. Obviously, that's absurd.
Hannity and Limbaugh aren’t birthers. Most Republicans aren’t.
Part of the ongoing problem is that an Hawaiian official has stated Barry Soetoro is a natural born citizen based upon the vital records that she claims to have seen which led her to that conclusion. But apparently the Hawaiian officials are breaking their own laws by not making available to the public the materials by which they have made this public proclamation.
Such is the state of this debacle, fraud and lies and sealed-from-the-public-view files are necessary to understand whether this man is actually a natural born citizen, and too many focal points are continuing to prevent the revelation of these data which the public is actually entitled to see!
We have a small army of obama slugs at FR taunting and insulting and spinning for the liar-in-chief, so maintaining the lies and secret files is apparently the strategy the obamanation has chosen, rather than openness. Oh, for sure, these pond-scum claim to care about the law, but in reality they are getting their amusement from spinning for the affirmative action liar, and have even admitted it several times. What does that tell us about these people that they take the time and make the claims of caring about the law, but they set out fromt he start to spin the Constitution to characterize it as impotent to define their chosen pres_ _ent?
When lies are the preferred defense of a pres_ _ent politician, the Republic is in mortal danger. And at FR they have a growing contingency working hard to maintain the lies and fraud. Why would a national media figure place their neck on a chopping block by having an ongoing counter blaring daily from their office, when even a conservative site like Freerepublic protects the liars and spinners working FR by characterizing them as doing a better job of arguing the issues? ... and surely you realize they are lying and dissembling, continually mischaracterizing to argue for their commie fascist pres_ _ent, yet they are protected.
It bound the Senators not to oppose McCain's electoral votes when they came before the Congress, and that is pretty binding.
SR511 disagrees with you. It incorporates Vattel's and Bingham's definition of "natural born citizen".
Once again I ask -- where is Obama's SR511????
Ann Coulter, Huckabee, Beck, O’Riley, Hannity, Greta, Rush, Levin, Schnitt and a whole bunch of other people, including SCOTUS would NOT have a gig, if they as so much as whispering the usurper’s BC or his ineligibility. Read the articles from Canada Free Press and listening to Dr. Laurie Roth to understand WHY!!!
..............Beck may be onto another Canada Free Press Story that they were working with North East Intelligence.
They have documents and testimony of Major News anchors from major Networks that were threatened by Obama Administration staff, NOT to bring up the BC or Natural Born Citizen issue.
Great interview in archives at Laurie Roth (3 hours long), but I highly recommend it. They state that they are storing documents in the US and copies in Canada, and maybe one other Country, if I remember correctly. The investigator is no amateur.
part 1
http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour1Aug0709.mp3
part 2
http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour2Aug0709.mp3
part 3
http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour3Aug0709.mp3
(and Northeast Intelligence intro and documentation at link below)
“4 August 2009: Do you remember Watergate? Thirty-five years ago this Sunday, U.S. President Richard M. Nixon submitted his letter of resignation for his role in the scandal. There was the crime - the break-in, and then there was the cover-up by the Nixon administration. There were threats, media manipulation and disinformation. It was the cover-up more than the crime itself in the aftermath of the Watergate break-in that led to the downfall of the Nixon administration. It was a politically critical time for our country, but we survived because of the strength of the U.S. constitution. “
http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=2966
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