Adoptions, unless they happened at birth time or close to it, would not amend the “birth records”.
I am not so sure about that. there was someone on here that had been adopted in hawaii, the birth records were amended and the original info sealed...but I can’t remember the details.
And what would it mean if Barry made the amendments or an amendment in his adult life ... like amending his vital records to end his legal son status to Lolo who adopted him? At what age might Barry the liar have done such an amending?
BULLSPIT!
I am listed as the birth father on my daughter's "official" long form. I didn't even meet her mom until Darling Daughter was three.
Nope, you can Amend at any time in Hawaii. Just have to have good reason to do so.
Yes they do. They amend the Certificate of Live Birth to reflect the new parent(s).
Who is Eligible to Apply for an Amended Certificate of Birth?
As provided by law (HRS §§338-17.7, 338-20.5), the following persons may apply for an amended certificate of birth:
* A person born in the State of Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health and
1. has become legally adopted, or
2. has undergone a sex change operation, or
3. a legal determination of the nonexistence of a parent and child relationship for a person identified as a parent on the birth certificate on file has been made, or
4. previously recorded information in relation to the person’s surname and/or the father’s personal particulars has been altered pursuant to law.
* A person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii.
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For a person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii:
* An amended birth certificate will be prepared upon receipt of a certified copy of the adoption decree or the certificate of adoption, and payment of fees.
§338-17.7 Establishment of new certificates of birth
The department of health shall establish, in the following circumstances, a new certificate of birth for a person born in this State who already has a birth certificate filed with the department and who is referred to below as the “birth registrant”:
...
When a new certificate of birth is established under this section, it shall be substituted for the original certificate of birth. Thereafter, the original certificate and the evidence supporting the preparation of the new certificate shall be sealed and filed. Such sealed document shall be opened only by an order of a court of record.
§338-20.5 Adoption; foreign born persons.
In the latter case, they are supposed to list the foreign country as place of birth and approximate date, or actual date if known, as date of birth.
Interestingly section 338-20 says (for persons born in the state:
(d) If no original certificate of birth shall be on file with the department, the department may require such evidence as it deems necessary to establish the facts of birth before preparing a supplementary certificate in the new name of the adopted person; provided that no such certificate shall be filed unless it shall be satisfactorily established that the adopted person was born in the State
Also the amended certificate probably would not show the circumstances of the original certificate (which might show a delayed filing, or a non attended (ie. by a doctor or midwife) birth.)
I don't know what a COLB based on an amended Certificate of Birth would show for "date filed by registrar", but if it was the date the amended certificate was filed, then an amended Certificate would prove that the CoLB is a forgery.
I wouldn't be surprised if there not an adopted FReeper out there that knows what date would be shown.
Notice that 338-17.7 says has a "birth certificate" but then establish a "certificate of birth".