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To: RummyChick
Even if born in Kenya, it is still possible to be a NBC IF She wasn’t married because she could bestow US citizenship on him.

You can't say that without knowing the definition of NBC.

Since it is the only place the term "natural born citizen" is used, I believe that the Founding Fathers FULLY INTENDED that for this one office to only be held by men with no hint of divided loyalties or allegiances.

They FULLY INTENDED that a president only be a child of American citizens (BOTH parents), AND be born on American soil.

Sure would be nice to have a real definition of NBC, though...

168 posted on 09/21/2009 9:15:51 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 243 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

Heck, if it was me, I’d even require being raised in the USofA...


169 posted on 09/21/2009 9:16:44 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 243 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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Even if born in Kenya, it is still possible to be a NBC IF She wasn’t married because she could bestow US citizenship on him.


You can’t say that without knowing the definition of NBC.

Since it is the only place the term “natural born citizen” is used, I believe that the Founding Fathers FULLY INTENDED that for this one office to only be held by men with no hint of divided loyalties or allegiances.

They FULLY INTENDED that a president only be a child of American citizens (BOTH parents), AND be born on American soil.

Sure would be nice to have a real definition of NBC, though...

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We ALL know that the Founding Fathers intended that an NBC be born within U.S. jurisdiction AND be born of two citizen parents.

The reason that they did NOT elucidate it in the Constitution was that the definition of NBC was UNIVERSALLY known to (ex) British subjects.

English Common Law (which the colonists abided by) FLATLY states that children born on English soil to aliens are, GENERALLY SPEAKING, NBCs.

The ONE requirement for such children is that they owe ONE LOYALTY AND ONE LOYALTY ONLY to a SINGLE sovreign. If a child’s parents owed their allegiance to another sovreign AND that sovreign conferred citizenship status on the child - the child was a dual national.

A dual national is what English Common Law termed a “DENIZEN” - having MOST of the rights of NBCs, EXCEPT that of holding high office.

Even if BHO was born in Hawaii (and a citizen, per the 14th Amendment) - the British Nationality Act of 1948 declared him to be a British citizen through his father.

Therefore, BHO is a dual national, or Denizen - and NOT eligible to high office in the eyes of the Founding Fathers ...

Now if those punks at SCOTUS would quit hiding behind their robes ...


185 posted on 09/21/2009 10:24:59 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: null and void

I absolutely can say that because you don’t know the definition. All you know at this point is that he will have to be a US citizen. You have no idea how the court would rule or what law would be passed by Congress.

You can have legal discussions all you want about what the founding fathers INTENDED...but at this point...there is no definitive definition...so yes, it is POSSIBLE that he could be an NBC if born in Kenya and she wasn’t married since that would bestow US citizenship.


222 posted on 09/22/2009 6:16:57 AM PDT by RummyChick
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