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The weird attacks on Van Jones (The view from San Francisco)
The San Francisco Bay Guardian ^ | September 4, 2009 | Tim Redmond

Posted on 09/05/2009 12:41:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I know some communists and Van Jones is not a communist."

Uhmm..how people in the world know an actual communist? Its not like saying "I know a Methodist".

21 posted on 09/05/2009 3:40:13 AM PDT by DainBramage
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If somebody calls themselves a communist, then by definition they are a communist. There is no legal definition necessary. Bill Ayers calls himself a communist with a small d or s or whatever. What Redmond really means is Van Jones and others are socialist elitists since they still want to have a big house, expensive cars, best food. You know, they want to control what everyone else has but damned if they will have to live up to their own demands foisted on everyone else.

As to this editorial: there is simply no refutation, no wrangling with Van Jones previous declarations from his anti-whitey quotes to his revolutionary quotes, to his preposterous claim first that he didn't know he was listed in this truther signatory ad to how now he doesn't believe in the ad's message. Redmond simply says, "This is ridiculous" while not refuting any of the charges made about Van Jones based on his own statements and speeches.

Redmond obviously would never inquire, just like the rest of the liberal media establishment, as to why Van Jones had never denounced over the last five years his name being attached to this statement since he now claims he is not in agreement. He can't say he doesn't agree with the signing statement and then not show that he denounced his supposed involuntary inclusion on the list. That's simply a question Van Jones could never answer because he did indeed support it - his actions and lack of reaction provide no other possibility.

22 posted on 09/05/2009 4:00:12 AM PDT by torchthemummy (Sam opens bar late: "If the Post Office ran its business like yours...never mind." - Cliff Clavin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“But what amazes me is how quickly people who aren’t typically considered wackos have bought into this “

Yes, foolish people - believing that Van Jones actually meant what he said and did what he was caught on tape doing. Don’t right-wingers know that they should only “buy into” what the San Fran elite tell us to believe?


23 posted on 09/05/2009 4:12:22 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, it really “weird” that we actually take Van Jones words seriously as opposed to this author’s mindless adoration of all things associated with 0.


24 posted on 09/05/2009 4:16:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (To all the senior citizens that voted for Hope and Change - heres yours-mom4melody)
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“in fact, there really aren’t a whole lot of communists left”

That’s because they now call themselves community organizers.

Or "environmentalists"

25 posted on 09/05/2009 4:17:20 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (To all the senior citizens that voted for Hope and Change - heres yours-mom4melody)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In the 1980s, I used to see the Revolutionary Communist Party types at political events, but you hardly ever hear from them any more.

I'm sure this is likely what the enlightened Mr. Redmond sees at the political events he attends. I love your "Tim Redmond - Ace Reporter" hat. It's quite the ensemble dude.

26 posted on 09/05/2009 4:36:01 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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To: MNJohnnie; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; DainBramage; ElayneJ; torchthemummy; 2ndDivisionVet; Talisker; ..
Van Jones has every true conservative in America attacking him, and Tim Redmond defending him.

That's Tim Redmond on the right, with the ponytail. So who do you believe? The conservatives, or Tim Redmond?

This is what I'd call a "no-brainer," even before you start picking apart Redmond's argument. And once you start picking apart Redmond's argument, you realize that it can be summarized in five words: "Take my word for it." If you trust the Tim Redmonds of the world to vouch for Van Jones, you're too stupid to be a conservative.

27 posted on 09/05/2009 4:37:45 AM PDT by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And the “Fox All-Stars” actually think that Zippy is going to axe someone who is that kind of icon to the left?

I really don’t think so! He’s already made the lefties mad enough by offering to compromise on Obamacare. He needs them and their money amd will not further alienate them.


28 posted on 09/05/2009 4:41:10 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's actually not that radical a letter

Says a radical.

29 posted on 09/05/2009 5:14:11 AM PDT by relictele
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From the comments: ;)

“Rick H.:

Not being able to recognize van jones for the kook that he is more or less brands you as a kook yourself.”


30 posted on 09/05/2009 6:50:51 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: kik5150
“in fact, there really aren’t a whole lot of communists left”

That’s because they now call themselves community organizers.

Or progressive, or liberal, or Democrat.

31 posted on 09/05/2009 7:21:06 AM PDT by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember back in the sixties when a number of leftist radicals were asked if they were simply commies. Of course they all denied it. As it turned out, a great many of them were actual communists. In short, they were communist liars.


32 posted on 09/05/2009 7:26:01 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are only going to defend 0’s commissars.


33 posted on 09/05/2009 9:12:36 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obamacare is "Shovel Ready".)
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To: DainBramage
On several occasions he has said he is a Communist.Now, it is a known phenomenon that communists lie when it advances their cause so....
34 posted on 09/05/2009 10:49:42 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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