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How big is $9 trillion? (in debt, No big deal says Krugman)
NY Times Krugman blog ^ | August 23, 2009 | Paul Krugman

Posted on 08/24/2009 8:41:28 AM PDT by sickoflibs

Edited on 08/24/2009 8:42:18 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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(Excerpt) Read more at krugman.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: economy; socialism
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The Peter Schiff/Redistribution Watch Ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)

If you realize both parties in Washington think our money is theirs and you trust them to do the wrong thing, this list is for you.

If you think there is a Santa Claus who is going to get elected in Washington and cut a few taxes and spend a few trillion and jump start the economy, and get our lost money back, this list is not for you.

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1 posted on 08/24/2009 8:41:29 AM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

TOAST in 2010 and 2012


2 posted on 08/24/2009 8:43:31 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: sickoflibs

Meanwhile, the same columnist on a different day will assert that a person who makes $250,000 a year is wealthy beyond imagination.


3 posted on 08/24/2009 8:44:32 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (This Little Piggie Gets Wee Wee'd Up All The Way Home)
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To: Harrius Magnus; mojitojoe; Pelham; mom2twinsn2; LongLiveTheRepublic; ConservativeOrBust; ...
The Peter Schiff/Redistribution Watch Ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)

Feel better yet? He also says (other sources) we need another stimulus of about 2T $, and says any type spending will jumpstart the economy doesnt matter what on, and he says there is no valid argument against the public plan.

He is LOVED at Mises for these pearls of wisdom, LOL

4 posted on 08/24/2009 8:45:37 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: sickoflibs

Incidentally, a rich person making $250,000 a year would have to work 36 million years to pay the $9 trillion. Then he can start working on the interest. Then the rest of the debt.


5 posted on 08/24/2009 8:46:34 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (This Little Piggie Gets Wee Wee'd Up All The Way Home)
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To: sickoflibs
pretty soon, we'll all be millionaires!


6 posted on 08/24/2009 8:47:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: sickoflibs
1 Trillion seconds equals 31688.087814028950237026896848937 years!

Just a little perspective to chew on.

7 posted on 08/24/2009 8:48:49 AM PDT by right way right (Do not mistake Religion for God.)
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To: sickoflibs

Actually, he’s right. Once you get your hyper-inflation going, you can pay it off in no time.


8 posted on 08/24/2009 8:48:52 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Sherman Logan

Better start creating jobs!


9 posted on 08/24/2009 8:51:06 AM PDT by right way right (Do not mistake Religion for God.)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Going to have to raise minimum wage again.(sarc)


10 posted on 08/24/2009 8:52:56 AM PDT by right way right (Do not mistake Religion for God.)
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To: sickoflibs

If it is so manageable, then YOU pay for it Krugman.


11 posted on 08/24/2009 8:55:08 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

“TOAST in 2010 and 2012”

GOP Slogan

Are you better off than you were 9 trillion dollars ago?


12 posted on 08/24/2009 9:00:42 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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The total money supply of the country (aka “M3”, all ‘money’ including all investments) is about $14T. Total dollar-denominated cash in existence is about $1T.


13 posted on 08/24/2009 9:03:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (flag@whitehouse.gov may bounce messages but copies may be kept. Informants are still solicited.)
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To: sickoflibs
A trillion here and a trillion there and pretty soon you have a Quadrillion dollars..
It does add up...
14 posted on 08/24/2009 9:04:55 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: NavyCanDo

A Freeper, JEff Head, posted this slogan:

Neuter them in 2010
Vote the Rest Out in 2012

Great for signs at the Townhall Meetings, IMO.


15 posted on 08/24/2009 9:05:37 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Sherman Logan
Actually, he’s right. Once you get your hyper-inflation going, you can pay it off in no time.

Wrong!

Much of our debt is inflation protected; and much of the engine driving the debt (e.g. Social Security and Medicare) are also locked in real terms.

The only alternative to paying the money back is to repudiate our obligations -- which would wipe out most pensions, drive away foreign capital for decades, and trigger massive hyperinflation.

16 posted on 08/24/2009 9:12:22 AM PDT by Zakeet (I get wee-wee'd over ObamaCare)
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To: sickoflibs

I’m curious as to Krugmans opinion of the deficit when Bush was in office.

This so-called economist is nothing but a communist hack.


17 posted on 08/24/2009 9:16:20 AM PDT by meyer (Do not go gentle into that good night - Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: right way right

Is it creating or saving or is it both creating and saving... I can’t keep it all straight what the magician says.


18 posted on 08/24/2009 9:23:51 AM PDT by steveyp
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RE :”I’m curious as to Krugmans opinion of the deficit when Bush was in office.”

Same thoughts.
Keynesian theory says that Bush should have raised taxes to slow down the economy as a response to inflation , you stimulate then put on the breaks. Bush kept on stimulating but the federal reserve put on the breaks, crash!

I do have a theory on tax cuts and increases that has to do with debt being bad, not managing the economy. Here he blames tax cuts for the deficit, not spending. Tax cuts bad, spending good! at link

Paul Krugman: The Bush Tax Cuts and the Deficit

19 posted on 08/24/2009 9:31:52 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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SOC SEC AND MEDICARE PROJECTIONS: 2009-unfunded liability has reached nearly $107 trillion

So with 2008 nominal annual national GDP at $14.4 trillion, if we hunkered down and paid every GDP dollar made, back into the system it would still take us 7 and a half years to be fully funded and or out of debt.

We are so screwed.

20 posted on 08/24/2009 9:40:45 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Extreme right-winged mob terrorist astroturfing bitter clinging racist birther evilmongering wingnut)
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