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POTUS Usurper Chester Arthur Forced Military To Salute British Flag.
naturalborncitizen ^ | 8/19/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/19/2009 12:16:47 PM PDT by rxsid

POTUS Usurper Chester Arthur Forced Military To Salute British Flag

Back in December, this blog broke the story that former US President Chester Arthur lied – in newspaper interviews with the Brooklyn Eagle – about his parental heritage. These lies covered up the fact that Chester Arthur, at the time of his birth, was a British Subject due to the fact that his father, William Arthur, was not a US citizen at the time Chester was born. This fact, had it been discovered back when Chester Arthur was running for Vice President, would have been an impediment to his nomination.

As fate would have it, Chester Arthur became President when Garfield was assassinated by a rabid Chester Arthur supporter.

Recently, there has been attempts in the main stream media (Colbert Report and AP propaganda) to normalize the fact that Chester Arthur served as President while also being a closet British subject.

We shall now examine one very upsetting official action taken by Chester Arthur as President of the US which bears witness to the importance of an accurate historical record for establishing such concepts as motive, allegiance and national sovereignty.

BY EXECUTIVE ORDER – CHESTER ARTHUR FORCED MILITARY TO SALUTE BRITISH FLAG

EXECUTIVE ORDER.[2]

[Footnote 2: Read by the Secretary of State before the people assembled to celebrate the Yorktown Centennial.]

YORKTOWN, VA., _October 19, 1881_.

In recognition of the friendly relations so long and so happily subsisting between Great Britain and the United States, in the trust and confidence of peace and good will between the two countries for all the centuries to come, and especially as a mark of the profound respect entertained by the American people for the illustrious sovereign and gracious lady who sits upon the British throne

_It is hereby ordered_, That at the close of the ceremonies commemorative of the valor and success of our forefathers in their patriotic struggle for independence the British flag shall be saluted by the forces of the Army and Navy of the United States now at Yorktown.

The Secretary of War and the Secretary of the Navy will give orders accordingly.

CHESTER A. ARTHUR.

By the President:
JAMES G. BLAINE,
_Secretary of State_.

That’s incredible. By Executive Order, the POTUS usurper and closet British subject ordered our military to salute the British flag. I do not know of any other time in our national history where this happened. Read this part again:

commemorative of the valor and success of our forefathers in their patriotic struggle for independence the British flag shall be saluted by the forces of the Army and Navy of the United States now at Yorktown.

Commemorative of our struggle to rid ourselves of the British flag, and in recognition of the blood shed on the field of battle, the usurper forced our military to salute the enemy flag. This is simply a form of blasphemy against our Constitution and our forefathers. The act of saluting is an act of allegiance. Chester Arthur can kiss my arse.

It was demanded of our military that they salute the flag of Great Britain.

There is nothing ceremonial about such an act. A salute is a salute. It has power and force. A salute to the Queen in her silly robes and throne holding a golden scepter is disgusting. Our military swears an oath to protect the US and its Constitution not the monarchy of Great Britain who our forefathers died on the battlefield trying to save us from.

What were they saving us from? They were saving us from a future as subjects of a Crown. They were saving us from being forced to bear loyalty to a monarch who believes there is something in her blood which makes her the rightful ruler of a people.

It is the very concept of royalty that the framers designed this country in opposition to.

The US is a direct creation of men who were determined that Government should fear the citizens. But when was the last time that happened? Our Government does not fear the people, but rather strikes fear in the people.

In his state of the Union address on December 6, 1881, Chester Arthur discussed this treasonous act as follows:

The feeling of good will between our own Government and that of Great Britain was never more marked than at present. In recognition of this pleasing fact I directed, on the occasion of the late centennial celebration at Yorktown, that a salute be given to the British flag…

[snip]

Chester Arthur also appointed Justice Horace Gray to the US Supreme Court. Gray wrote the majority decision in Wong Kim Ark. That decision seriously damaged the true meaning of the 14th Amendment by subverting the words “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” and thereafter weakening the jurisdiction of the US to prevent abuse of our immigration and naturalization laws.

The decision in Wong Kim Ark at first glance tends to give the appearance of sanitizing Chester Arthur’s citizenship issues. One cannot help but wonder if Justice Gray was protecting the legality of his SCOTUS appointment. Such is the everlingering stench of usurpation upon national precedent.

I expect that with these revelations coming at a rather fast pace, internet researchers/bloggers etc. will continue to unearth more relevant facts which bear witness to the true wisdom our forefathers had when they wrote Article 2, Section, 1, Clause 5: the natural born citizen POTUS eligibility requirement.

It comes as no surprise to me that usurper Chester Arthur, a closet British Subject, forced the US military to salute the flag of Great Britain. Furthermore, his words of respect for the unjust institution of monarchy – where the subjects are held by law to be lesser creatures than those of the throne – is a blasphemy on the principles of our republican form of Government where we the people own the country and its government.

This very concept - that the government must answer to we the people – is a blasphemy to monarchy. Since Chester Arthur was a natural born subject of Great Britain, he was born into blasphemy of our republican form of Government.

US President Barack Obama, Jr. was also a natural born British citizen/subject, a fact he has openly admitted. I will examine his current status under the monarchy of Great Britain in a forthcoming report.


TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: arthur; birthcertificate; certifigate; donofrio; imom; obama; obroma; usurper
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1 posted on 08/19/2009 12:16:47 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: hoosiermama; Red Steel; null and void; LucyT; BP2; STARWISE; Amityschild; Calpernia; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/19/2009 12:17:22 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Can we get a good fact check on this?


3 posted on 08/19/2009 12:19:24 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

It is all accurate as recorded in History.


4 posted on 08/19/2009 12:27:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: rxsid

Now, if you want a REALLY bizarre story, read about Arthur’s grandson, Chester Athur III.


5 posted on 08/19/2009 12:35:47 PM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: rxsid
What's truly amazing is how much of the nation (by that I mean the people, not the dirt bounded by our "borders") no longer understands that loyalty to a foreign power is what is at issue in both Arthur and Obama's cases.

The comment about Gray is fascinating. Seen in that light, it does start to make sense about Wong Kim Ark. For a long time, I had thought that maybe the era when that decision was taken was some sort of nascent "liberal progressive" time, when attitudes towards non-White aliens were softening.

But this refutes that, and explains one more puzzle about Ark: why did the majority resort to English Common Law to produce the result that Ark was a citizen? As Eastman and Meese pointed out (see P. 18-19), the Constitution rejects feudalism and thus the resort to Common Law regarding Sojourners employed by Gray.

But it makes sense if Gray saw himself as an Englishman.

So he was no liberal, but rather a closet Monarchist, reaching back in to the Monarchist's trick bag to produce more serfs for the Kings.

6 posted on 08/19/2009 12:43:45 PM PDT by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property)
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To: Regulator
"loyalty to a foreign power is what is at issue in both Arthur and Obama's cases. "

Indeed, so true. Goes to the very core of the intent/reason of the framers requiring NBC (after their Revolutionary generation) for the position of "Commander in Chief."

7 posted on 08/19/2009 1:05:45 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
OK, who was the freeper that posted to e that Zero's "dual citizenship" wasn't a problem because Arhtur also had dual citizenship and there was a precedent. Looks like Arthur (like Zero) knew it would be an issue so he hid it and lied about it. Hmmm.....

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8 posted on 08/19/2009 1:29:42 PM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" or "come get some")
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To: rxsid; hoosiermama; LucyT; STARWISE

Arthur's father's date of naturalization was two years after his birth. The original argument was that a person born in the US
with only one citizen parent was not a natural born citizen. While Arthur did thwart the claims then, same as Obama is doing
with the claims of being born in Kenya, if you read some of the editorials of the day, it eerily echos today's headlines.

As Cort Wrotnowski indicated in his Supplemental Brief to the SCOTUS back in December,
President Chester Arthur was not a “natural born citizen”, and hid those facts until his death.

From that Supplemental Brief: http://www.scribd.com/doc/8830185/Wrotnowski-v-Bysiewicz-Supplemental-Brief

The definitive biography of Chester Arthur's life is “Gentleman Boss” by Thomas Reeves.
Since Chester Arthur burned his papers around the time of his death, this biography fills
many gaps with interviews of family members and authentic documents such as the Arthur family Bible.

From “Gentleman Boss”, page 202 and 203:
“…Hinman was hired, apparently by democrats, to explore
rumors that Arthur had been born in a foreign country, was not a
natural-born citizen of the United States, and was thus, by the
Constitution, ineligible for the vice-presidency. By mid-August,
Hinman was claiming that Arthur was born in Ireland and had
been brought to the United States by his father when he was fourteen.
Arthur denied the charge and said that his mother was
a New Englander who had never left her native country — a
statement every member of the Arthur family knew was untrue.”

9 posted on 08/19/2009 1:32:28 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: wastoute
Since Chester Arthur burned his papers around the time of his death ...

Kinda like Obama was probably rummaging through his grandmother's
scrapbooks and keepsakes -- just a few days before the election -- for
anything that could be incriminating ...

10 posted on 08/19/2009 1:43:47 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Welcome2thejungle

You mean Gavin? Whoa! That’s a story I didn’t need to read about. LOL.


11 posted on 08/19/2009 2:02:57 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid; All
(1) What was the American law in effect at the time of Arthur's birth concerning the citizenship status at birth of a child born to a non-citizen father and a citizen mother on American soil?

(2) There is one major difference between the situations of Arthur and Obama: Arthur was beyond doubt a citizen of the United States at the time he assumed the presidency; in contrast, we still don't know if Obama is a citizen or even if he ever has been a citizen. (I admit that this has little bearing on Arthur's constitutional eligibility or lack thereof).

(3) As far as American troops saluting the British flag is concerned, my guess would be that, given the close proximity and working relationships between Americans and British in WWII and the stationing of many American troops in Great Britain, it possibly did occur during that time frame, but probably not on orders of the president.

12 posted on 08/19/2009 2:24:14 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
"(3) As far as American troops saluting the British flag is concerned, my guess would be that, given the close proximity and working relationships between Americans and British in WWII and the stationing of many American troops in Great Britain, it possibly did occur during that time frame, but probably not on orders of the president. "

From what I've read and heard, standing at attention before a foreign country's colors almost certainly was common then (and still is). However, to actually salute the foreign colors, less certain. IIAC, saluting the "colors" is a sign of not only respect, but shows allegiance.

Of possible interest...

"§ 9. Conduct during hoisting, lowering or passing of flag

During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade or in review, those present in uniform should render the military salute. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute. All other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, or if applicable, remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Citizens of other countries should stand at attention. All such conduct toward the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes."

http://www.legion.org/national/americanflag/flagcode

13 posted on 08/19/2009 3:05:17 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: justiceseeker93
(1) What was the American law in effect at the time of Arthur's birth concerning the citizenship status at birth of a child born to a non-citizen father and a citizen mother on American soil?

Patrilineage. The citizenship of the husband determined the citizenship of the wife. The citizenship of the father determined the citizenship of the child. Chester A. Arthur was not even a citizen at birth, regardless of where he was born. Regarding a wife's citizenship as an entity separate from her husband, only came into being in the 1920's.

14 posted on 08/20/2009 6:31:00 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: rxsid

Yeah, weird, weird.

He was into astrology, lived in SF, and attended Anton LeVay’s Church of Satan.


15 posted on 08/20/2009 11:35:32 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: rxsid

Isn’t it time that the Chester Arthur incident be fully investigated and his name cleared or, if if it is concluded that eligibility was never satisfied, that every last bid of legislation signed by this man be (at least symbolicly) reversed.


16 posted on 08/25/2009 5:27:24 AM PDT by AJMCQ (Who is Khalid al-Mansour? You mean Obama didn't get into Harvard on his grades?)
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To: rxsid; All
Any military person stationed on a coalition base or in a foreign country salutes all kinds of flags, so this is hardly an issue.

I've saluted all kinds of flags over my career. BFD

17 posted on 05/31/2011 12:34:55 PM PDT by Silverfiddle (Stand With The Heroes, Fight The Zeroes!)
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To: All
From US Army Reg 600-25

http://www.americanvolunteerreserve.org/regulation/Army/r600_25.pdf

1–10. Foreign national anthems. [...] The same honors rendered to the United States National Anthem will be rendered during the playing of the foreign national anthems.

As less and less people join the military, I guess blind spots like this will pop up.

18 posted on 05/31/2011 12:45:54 PM PDT by Silverfiddle (Stand With The Heroes, Fight The Zeroes!)
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To: Silverfiddle; All
Was the base in Yorktown a "coalition" base? Was it in a foreign country?

If neither, seems you've just compared apples to steaks.

19 posted on 05/31/2011 3:25:13 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Silverfiddle
Your Army Reg is date 1 September 1983.

Find one that was in affect when the original usurper gave the order...then you've got somethin.

20 posted on 05/31/2011 3:26:42 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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