Posted on 08/18/2009 5:02:55 PM PDT by HorowitzianConservative
I dread when leftist talk show host Bill Maher has celebrities, musicians and actors on his Real Time panels. They’re always such dead weight, totally unable to say anything intelligent or have any grasp of the issues. And politically they almost always argue from their position in Chomskyland. It’s just pure, endlessly pathetic radical chic.
That’s what I was expecting when I saw that Ashton Kutcher, star of “Dude, Where’s My Car?” and the celebrity prank show “Punk’d,” would be joining General Anthony Zinni and conservative columnist Ross Douthat for Maher’s chatfest. And I was stunned when those low expectations weren’t met. Instead Kutcher put forth sensible views and engaging, informed opinions on the issue of health care which brought some consensus to the table.
Discussing the issue of a greater need for an emphasis on promoting wellness instead of just treating sickness, Kutcher expressed a view on socialized medicine that hasn’t been discussed as much as it should:
“Frankly, I don’t want to pay for the guy who’s getting a triple-bypass because he’s eating fast food all day and deep-fried snickers bars. I don’t want to pay for him! Whether he’s wealthy or he’s not!”
He’s right. Should the taxpayer have to pay for other people’s unhealthiness? Should the taxpayer pay for the guy who smokes four packs of cigarettes a day and then gets emphysema?
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“Frankly, I don’t want to pay for the guy who’s getting a triple-bypass because he’s eating fast food all day and deep-fried snickers bars. I don’t want to pay for him! Whether he’s wealthy or he’s not!”
Right on!
And I do not want to pay for cancer treatment for smokers.”
And I do not want to pay for parents that have heart attacks or strokes because their teens or adult children are a burden.
I do not want to pay for knee treatment/surgery for people that run for exercise.
I do not want to pay for shoulder treatment/surgery for those like to golf or play basketball with their kids or on the weekends.
I do not want to pay for stress related illnesses causes by overachievers.
I just want my family to be responsible for itself.
The toy boy admitted he voted right in 2000, then got pu$$y whipped and went wrong. No freedom loving American can trust him.
It sounded great until the last sentence!
The foolish bastard that requires a tripple-bypass from eating fried Snickers bars and fast food is no concern of yours if he does it all on his dime, Asston!
If he is on the public dole then you are right, although somewhat cold-hearted, let him go TU!
The real rub is in what arbitrary way do you wish to judge one person piously virtuous but another morbidly decadent?!
This conversation should not be happening!
National health care gives everyone the OK to dictate the behaviors of their neighbor. If you think HOAs are a pain in the ass, just wait until the neighborhood health corps starts picking through your trash, monitoring your exercise regimen and making sure your sexual practices are “safe”.
Kutcher has, since I first noticed him, been one of the few Hollywood celebs I could even stand to watch just being himself, in an interview or whatever. Never knew his politics, but he always seemed fairly likable and not so full of himself as most celebs. And, maybe he's even more on the ball than most of us realized.
And I do not want to pay for the treatment of the multitude of diseases and infections acquired by those who drink too much, use drugs, are promiscuous or have "alternative" lifestyles.
Speaking of which, shouldn’t the “gays” also be raising cain on the “death panels” or is the fact that most are “young”, i.e., under 65 and will continue to receive government monies to foster and enhance their deadly behavior?
The captions are not on those boots!
And furthermore, those are not boots!
Ashton Kutcher’s wife will be a senior citizen in a few years!
“Frankly, I don’t want to pay for the guy who’s getting a triple-bypass because he’s eating fast food all day and deep-fried snickers bars. I don’t want to pay for him! Whether he’s wealthy or he’s not!”
Unfortunately, the government will take that idea as a perfect opportunity to put a massive sin tax on fast food and deep-fried snickers bars so everyone... healthy or not... has to pay.
It isn't possible.
Oh please...they will be monitoring and policing certain behaviors to punish such lifestyles. It all ties together. Obesity is such an easy target.
I would be more impressed if kuscher said, I don’t want to pay for all the AIDS treatments for those choosing the homosexual lifestyle, rich or poor.
He didn’t quite have the nerve to say he didn’t want to pay for bath house habbituees, but a step in the right direction.
I think those who define themselves as ‘fiscally conservative and also socially liberal’ kid themselves, but what they MEAN is that you can have an abortion if YOU pay for it; you can have a homosexual relationship if YOU pay for any resultant AIDS treatments, etc. Totally unrealistic, but it keeps them from being tagged ‘conservative’ which, in their social circles, means ‘closed minded’ ‘intolerant’ etc.
Or all those fat asses. Right?
If health care is a privilege are you willing to turn away everyone who shows up at the hospital without enough money to pay up front? It is very American to resist giving people a free ride, but I don’t think anyone here is prepared to do that. If you say you are, you’re lying.
The pic in #5 is funny.
I take as my individual Christian responsibility to feed the hungry, shelter the homeless, clothe the naked and care for the sick - and so do a lot of other Americans. It's called charity. I'd be able to do a lot more of it if government wasn't stealing my means to do so through taxes. Who do you think did these things before Big Government? Who built hospitals? Schools? Food pantries?
Government wants to force people to do this, that's not charity; it's theft.
Where did this thought come from! Of course the answer is yes! But that is imperatively the answer only as far as it goes.
Are we to infer that you accept government must insert itself into the mix to keep individuals alive?
I say without the horribly misguided reliance on the great grand government nanny, charities, families, and individuals would devote a more reasonable and focused effort to provide and improve health care.
We all know that our grandparents visited a doctor only a few times in their whole lives. Allowing the government to take control will send us all down a path where a medtech behind a bullet-proof glass with dictate who is or is not served by the last living doctor in each socialist locality.
Our U.S. Constitution does not have an article that allows government to provide socialist health care.
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