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What's Wrong With E=MC^2?
Scientific Blogging ^ | August 15, 2009 | Johannes Koelman

Posted on 08/16/2009 4:08:31 PM PDT by decimon

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Chuck Missler

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21 posted on 08/16/2009 4:32:16 PM PDT by marbren
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To: decimon
E=MC2

All it take to fix is some basic HTML

22 posted on 08/16/2009 4:35:08 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Your It.)
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To: paulycy
True, but that was when light was new and fresh and not old and sticky like it is now.

I agree, the universe is in a mode of decay.

23 posted on 08/16/2009 4:37:56 PM PDT by marbren
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To: decimon
E=mc2 is rest mass.
E=Mc2 is relativistic mass. The second one includes momentum.
24 posted on 08/16/2009 4:40:13 PM PDT by allmost
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To: marbren

Here are some articles at Lambert Dolphin’s website...

http://www.google.com/cse?cx=006350533625301738356:c9tvooobz5s&cof=FORID:0&q=speed+of+light&sa=Search


25 posted on 08/16/2009 4:40:29 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: ThomasThomas
All it take to fix is some basic HTML

All it takes to fix it is some basic English grammar.

26 posted on 08/16/2009 4:41:25 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: decimon

I can imagine... :-)


27 posted on 08/16/2009 4:43:20 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: decimon
Does this mean I should give up my drive to make it E=C2M?

-PJ

28 posted on 08/16/2009 4:44:11 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: allmost
E=mc2 is rest mass.

E=Mc2 is relativistic mass.

Seems catholic.

29 posted on 08/16/2009 4:45:51 PM PDT by decimon
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To: paulycy

maybe it has the flu


30 posted on 08/16/2009 4:48:03 PM PDT by rightey1
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To: Political Junkie Too
Does this mean I should give up my drive to make it E=C2M?

If you can still find a SCSI drive.

31 posted on 08/16/2009 4:48:19 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon; KevinDavis
Dat Einstein! He had a way with the girls I tell ya! :)


32 posted on 08/16/2009 4:48:25 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (2008: The year the Media died. --Sean Hannity, regarding Barack HUSSEIN ObaMao's treatment ...)
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To: paulycy; marbren

Speed of light slowing down?
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39733

Would this affect the famous equation?


33 posted on 08/16/2009 4:48:58 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: marbren

Speed of light slowing down after all?
Famous physicist makes headlines
http://creation.com/speed-of-light-slowing-down-after-all


34 posted on 08/16/2009 4:52:59 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Having to work the Doppler shift all the time would make anyone tired and slow.


35 posted on 08/16/2009 4:55:03 PM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: decimon

Harvard Physicist Plays Magician With the Speed of Light
By Erin Biba
10.23.07

Lene Vestergaard Hau can stop a pulse of light in midflight, start it up again at 0.13 miles per hour, and then make it appear in a completely different location. “It’s like a little magic trick,” says Hau, a Harvard physicist. “Of course, in all magic tricks there’s a secret.” And her secret is a 0.1-mm lump of atoms called a Bose-Einstein condensate, cooled nearly to absolute zero (-459.67 degrees Fahrenheit) in a steel container with tiny windows. Normally — well, in a vacuum — light goes 186,282 miles per second. But things are different inside a BEC, a strange place where millions of atoms move — barely — in quantum lockstep.

About a decade ago, Hau started playing with BECs — for a physicist, that means shooting lasers at them. She blew up a few. Eventually, she found that lasers of the right wavelengths could tune the optical properties of a BEC, giving Hau an almost supernatural command over any other light shined into it. Her first trick was slowing a pulse of light to a crawl — 15 mph as it traveled through the BEC. Since then, Hau has completely frozen a pulse and then released it. And recently she shot a pulse into one BEC and stopped it — turning the BEC into a hologram, a sort of matter version of the pulse. Then she transferred that matter waveform into an entirely different BEC nearby — which emitted the original light pulse. That’s just freaky. Hey, Einstein may have set that initial speed limit of light, but he only theorized about BECs. “It’s not breaking relativity,” Hau says. “But I’m sure he would have been rather surprised.”

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/15-11/st_alphageek


36 posted on 08/16/2009 4:56:39 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: paulycy

:-)


37 posted on 08/16/2009 4:57:30 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: decimon

Here’s another general article on the speed of light...


Upheaval in Physics:
History of the Light-Speed Debate
by Helen D. Setterfield

[Ed Note: We have been following Barry Setterfield’s research on the speed of light since 1993. [1] It is interesting that both evolutionists and creation scientists can be blinded by their own presuppositions...]

When we walk into a dark room, flip a switch and the light is instantly on, it seems that light has no speed but is somehow infinite - instantly there - and that was the majority opinion of scientists and philosophers until September 1676, when Danish astronomer Olaf Roemer announced to the Paris Academie des Sciences that the anomalous behavior of the eclipse times of Jupiter’s inner moon, Io, could be accounted for by a finite speed of light. [2] His work and his report split the scientific community in half, involving strong opinions and discussions for the next fifty years. It was Bradley’s independent confirmation of the finite speed of light, published January 1, 1729, which finally ended the opposition. [3] The speed of light was finite-incredibly fast, but finite.

The following question was: “Is the speed of light constant?” Interestingly enough, every time it was measured over the next few hundred years, it seemed to be a little slower than before. This could be explained away, as the first measurements were unbelievably rough compared to the technical accuracy later. It was not that simple, though. When the same person did the same test using the same equipment at a later period in time, the speed was slower. Not much, but slower.

These results kicked off a series of lively debates in the scientific community during the first half of the 20th century. Raymond Birge, highly respected chairman of the physics department at the University of California, Berkeley, had, from 1929 on, established himself as an arbiter of the values of atomic constants. [4] The speed of light is considered an atomic constant. However Birge’s recommended values for the speed of light decreased steadily until 1940, when an article written by him, entitled “The General Physical Constants, as of August 1940 with details on the velocity of light only,” appeared in Reports on Progress in Physics (Vol. 8, pp.90-100, 1941). Birge began the article saying: “This paper is being written on request - and at this time on request ... a belief in any significant variability of the constants of nature is fatal to the spirit of science, as science is now understood [emphasis his].” These words, from this man, for whatever reason he wrote them, shut down the debate on the speed of light. Birge had previously recognized, as had others, that if the speed of light was changing, it was quite necessary that some of the other “constants” were also changing. This was evidently not to be allowed, whether it was true or not, and so the values for the various constants were declared and that was that. Almost. In the October 1975 issue of Scientific American (p. 120), C.L. Strong questioned whether the speed of light might change with time “as science has failed to get a consistently accurate value.” It was just a ripple, but the issue had not quite disappeared.

Partly in order to quell any further doubts about the constancy of the speed of light, in October 1983 the speed of light was declared a universal constant of nature, defined as 299,792.458 kilometers per second, which is often rounded off to the measurement we are more familiar with in the West as 186,000 miles per second.

Birge’s paper was published in 1941. Just a year later, Barry Setterfield was born in Australia. In 1979 he was 37 years old. That year he received a book from a friend, a book on astronomical anomalies. It was a large book, and near the end of it there was a section on the speed of light, questioning its constancy. Barry was stunned. Nothing he had read or learned in physics or astronomy had even hinted that there was a question regarding the speed of light. It was a constant, wasn’t it? As he read, he learned about the measurements that had been taken years before, and the arguments that had gone on in the scientific literature, and he was fascinated. He figured he could read up on it and wrap up the question in about two weeks; it didn’t quite work out that way.

[ ... ]

http://ldolphin.org/cdk-helen.html


38 posted on 08/16/2009 5:09:43 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

I haven’t noticed light slowing but time does seem to have sped up.


39 posted on 08/16/2009 5:18:31 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Now..., does that mean you’re at a higher altitude, or a lower altitude? :-)


40 posted on 08/16/2009 5:24:59 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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