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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...people who are worried about gun control and immigration, or even people who are merely skeptical of government, are psychologically insane.

Responding to Matthews’ implication that people who had questions about Obama’s birthplace were “full mooners” and insane, MSNBC political analyst Howard Fineman included “people who are worried about the government taking up the guns, people who deny the federal government has a right to tax your income, people who are worried about being overrun at the borders,” in the same category and said they were merely looking for a reason to find a conspiracy behind Obama.

Real simple sport. If you trust your government, particularly the one we have now with obama at the helm, you my friend are insane.

Of course there are people out there that want to remove all firearms from the hands of private citizens. To deny that is a bald-faced lie. If the government thought it could get away with it, they would do it tomorrow.

We're not worried about immigration. However, we are very concerned about illegal immigration, smuggling, and in a broader sense border security. If you aren't, you are either a one-world let's all be one big happy family idealist, a fool to rely on the good intentions of others, or sadly misinformed. There are people out there who wish us harm. They are looking for ways to do us harm. We either secure our borders, or suffer the consequences. There is no touchy-feely middle ground.

I absolutely do not think the government has "a right" to tax my income. As citizens we are (supposedly) protected by and represented by our government. That doesn't happen for free. So as a citizen I believe I am obligated to help pay for this common defense. However, there is nothing magical about an income tax. The government has no intrinsic "right" to tax me. The federal, state, and local budgets could be funded just as easily solely by a sales tax.

Is there a conspiracy behind obama? Yes, I believe there is. obama is hiding something. Almost all the records of his youth have disappeared or been sealed. His birth certificate and eligibility to be President remains an open question. The only "proof" offered of his citizenship has been a "short form" certificate of live birth. In Hawaii, at that time, anyone could get a COLB, even if they were not a natural born US citizen. There are conflicting stories regarding obama's long-form or full birth certificate. Someone said they saw it, someone said obama has it. Some others claim Hawaii destroyed them in 2001 and went paperless so he couldn't possibly have it. Others have stated he cannot produce it because he cannot find it. Too many contradictions - someone (one or more people) is obviously lying. For added fun, the address listed on the COLB is not and never has been an obama residence. So this is obviously incorrect, possibly made-up when someone was falsifying the COLB. Simply put, if there is nothing worth hiding in the real documentation of obama's youth, why are he and his cohorts (in crime?) spending so much time, money, and political capital to keep them sealed? Why is obama in such a rush to ram his version of a socialist/fascist paradise down our collective throats? Is it because he knows his days in office are numbered? Counted by the various court challenges he now faces?

In short, there are lots of reasons to disagree with MSNBC... We are not insane, they are at best foolish and naive, but more probably just drinking the obama kool-aid afraid to admit they backed a nightmare.

23 posted on 07/28/2009 7:18:32 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

My friend, you have your facts wrong.

Not in any sense that a liberal would tell you, but there are some shortcomings.

Obama’s COLB was supposedly issued in 2007, on 2008 paper. The birth certificate remains on file with the State of Hawaii, so they say.

I agree on pretty much everything else. The only reason to fear the private ownership of guns is if you intend to do something that will make them angry enough to use them. So, what does this mean for people who mean to take them away?


37 posted on 07/28/2009 9:09:31 PM PDT by freedomconservationist
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