Thank you, MHG.
I couldn’t open that site; could you? I mean I got to the web site, but the “Why Obama isn’t”...link simply didn’t open for me.
I am also trying to find some more information on all this HRS 338-13(b), 338-19]338-13(b) 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18 actualy meaning.
Apparently, Obama’s COLB was Revised on November, 2001. Does anybody know what sort of “revisions” they are talking about?
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davidfarrar
Ping to question at #75.
The revisions were (1) a change to a new, computer-generated certificate form that automatically retrieves birth record data to populate the data fields on the form.
The other change was in the specific information that it now contained: basically, the bare minimum to legally establish date of birth (e.g., August 4, 1961), place of birth (e.g., Hawaii), and date filed (e.g., August 8, 1961).
The names and races of the parents are of secondary importance, at best, because the more important parental data is left out, such as citizenship status or immigration status, marital status, and length of residency.
On another hotly contested feature on Obama's COLB was the listing of his father's race as AFRICAN. From my phone conversations, I learned that the DOH has been appling the same race classification rules as does the Census for responses that fall outside of their pre-selected categories.
Thereis a category labeled, "Some other race,” and there's a line for the Census taker to record what the race responses provided by residents, which do include continents like Latin American or Central American and South American. Therefore, recording AFRICAN as Obama Sr's race would have been acceptable to Hawaii.
From what I've read, Hawaii started a major scam shortly after they became a state. Hawaii decided to "convert" all of their Asian immigrants into Hawaiian citizens by sending them short-form birth certificates. These new citizens would then make it possible for Hawaii to receive federal monies for the social services, health services, and educational services that they provided to this undocumented Asian population.
If this is true, and I have not seen anything to the contrary, Madelyn Dunham probably knew what Hawaii was doing, and may have "used the system" to help daughter Ann secure a birth certificate for African-born Barack.
If this scam were to be uncovered, imagine all of the grief that would befall Hawaii. For this reason, Hawaii has been tight-lipped about wjhere Obama was born, and refusing to release any other information from his original birth record.
The revisions were (1) a change to a new, computer-generated certificate form that automatically retrieves birth record data to populate the data fields on the form.
The other change was in the specific information that it now contained: basically, the bare minimum to legally establish date of birth (e.g., August 4, 1961), place of birth (e.g., Hawaii), and date filed (e.g., August 8, 1961).
The names and races of the parents are of secondary importance, at best, because the more important parental data is left out, such as citizenship status or immigration status, marital status, and length of residency.
On another hotly contested feature on Obama's COLB was the listing of his father's race as AFRICAN. From my phone conversations, I learned that the DOH has been appling the same race classification rules as does the Census for responses that fall outside of their pre-selected categories.
Thereis a category labeled, "Some other race,” and there's a line for the Census taker to record what the race responses provided by residents, which do include continents like Latin American or Central American and South American. Therefore, recording AFRICAN as Obama Sr's race would have been acceptable to Hawaii.
From what I've read, Hawaii started a major scam shortly after they became a state. Hawaii decided to "convert" all of their Asian immigrants into Hawaiian citizens by sending them short-form birth certificates. These new citizens would then make it possible for Hawaii to receive federal monies for the social services, health services, and educational services that they provided to this undocumented Asian population.
If this is true, and I have not seen anything to the contrary, Madelyn Dunham probably knew what Hawaii was doing, and may have "used the system" to help daughter Ann secure a birth certificate for African-born Barack.
If this scam were to be uncovered, imagine all of the grief that would befall Hawaii. For this reason, Hawaii has been tight-lipped about wjhere Obama was born, and refusing to release any other information from his original birth record.