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To: SoCalPol; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; exit82; calcowgirl; djsherin; bamahead; ...
Gov. Palin is the true conservative, also believes in fighting the war against the IslamOfascists. Her oldest son is fighting in Iraq. Sandy like RINO Paul is not a believer in Fighting this war.

You're silly if you think that Paul--or any of the other "conservatarians"--is a RINO.

Aside from his positions with regard to the conduct of war, his belief in strict adherence to the Constitution as a means of limiting the power of our Government are far more "conservative" than the majority of Republicans, who seem to have gotten quite drunk on power under Bush. [And no, trying to deflect blame on the Democrats by pointing to Pelosi and Reid and arguing that they controlled Congress won't work here. The Republicans held control of Congress for six years, with a Republican president, and failed to follow through on any of their earlier promises to the electorate to actually shrink Government back within its Constitutionally delimited boundaries.]

Without the "conservatarians"--all you've got are social conservatives and hawks, neither of which is opposed to the expansion and consolidation of federal power so long as the exercise thereof serves their own ends.

Continue to ignore, berate, and belittle "conservatarians" like Paul at your own risk...but don't be surprised when you wake up one morning in a police state.

Now, with regard to Paul: if not for him--and folks like Mark Sanford--I would have given up on the conservative movement outright...since, after all, looking out for yourself first is a very "pragmatic" approach to life.

Oh, and by the way: if I wanted to vote for "charisma" I would have voted for 0bama. I want someone like Sanford who, despite a few flaws, is willing to unremittingly attack the size of Government. I don't care how charismatic they are. So, if all your faction has to present is Palin, then y'all are toast in 2012.

38 posted on 05/17/2009 1:35:45 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385; Jim Robinson

L Ron Paul is a RINO, he supports Third Party candidates.
His views in many areas are more to the left, one reason Cindy Sheehan supported him.

Check out the thread from the other evening where the Paulbot was Zotted and the comments about Paul from a
large number of FReepers.

Ask Jim what he think of RINO Paul


41 posted on 05/17/2009 1:40:45 AM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: rabscuttle385
RE :”So, if all your faction has to present is Palin, then y'all are toast in 2012

Last week someone pinged me with Cheney/Palin 2012 and he really thought Cheney was hurting Obama, said "finally someone has the guts to bring Obama down". All I can say is desperate and delusional. I told him to watch Obama’s polls on national security the next week or so go up.(Cheney is a sideshow and is more problem than solution)

Palin is supposed to get the pro-lifers/social conservatives/single Mom's to vote R, but Cheney is pro-homo rights which may be his ultimate goal in Iraq invasion (just joking!).

Anyone I missed offending ??

94 posted on 05/17/2009 12:43:05 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama /Pelosi/Bush Theme : "A dollar borrowed or printed is a dollar earned!")
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To: rabscuttle385

Years ago, I was found Ron Paul to be a real breath of fresh air. His public statements were closely tied to the Constitution and I didn’t realize some of his other points of view.

Since then, Ron has essentially destroyed my appreciation of him. I would never vote for him to lead our government.

Any guy that sounds more like a Democrat than a Republican when it comes to our national security, is not worthy of my support.


103 posted on 05/18/2009 10:03:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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