[1believer]

I agree with the most part of what you said,

but people do not realize the words have meanings, not the meanings that we see today but older meanings and symbols have meanings deeper and darker than you can imagine.

As for the log it is with thy brother not the Devil, Satan is the father of All Lies therefore if the word Visa has a sinister meaning then?

Bankers are the reason for the majority of the financial problems we see if we all grew our own gardens and bartered for the luxuries we want we would not have to give them unearned money.

[darkwing104]

There is nothing sinister in words. Words have meaning and the meaning is what we apply to them.

Bankers are the reason for the majority of the financial problems

Forget the class envy, that is another personal demon you can do without. Bankers never forced anyone to take a loan.

If you can do for yourself then God will bless your work. Success and failures in our lives are often governed by the choices we make. Once you are honest with yourself on that fact the quicker you will see the truth. We must live with our choices, we can improve our lot and be in compliance with God's plan.

Don't blame others, it's a self defeating game.

[Viking2002]

'if we all grew our own gardens and bartered for the luxuries we want we would not have to give them unearned money. '

First thing you've said that makes sense. I do both.

IBTZ, anyhoo.