Posted on 04/08/2009 3:55:16 PM PDT by careyb
Why should he have to defend it.
Anyways, higher taxes will just hurt NYC, Chi, etc.
I’m glad he’s moving....I want every blue state to collapse in its own ideology. Red states unite!
What will happen when the government prevents or even stops citizens from moving out of state because they are fed up with taxes ? .... in other words, the government holding us hostage.
Illinois/Chicago is on the verge of collapse. We were actually thinking of movingg there full time as little as a few months ago, but they’re really sinking fast. 18% jump in the sales tax, 50% jump in the income tax. Now installing CCTV cams everywhere...Chicago is the ultimate nanny state in the USA.
Rush on Your World with Neil Cavuto
April 8, 2009
CAVUTO: Now to that other fear thats building up, the anti-tax rush, as in Rush Limbaugh. He is so fed up with New Yorks new millionaires tax, hes packing up and heading out. The New York governor all but telling him, Dont let the screen door hit you on the way out. The governor isnt speaking to us, but Rush is. Radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh, joining me now on the phone for this exclusive chat. Well, Rush, they couldnt have been more to the point. Theyre glad youre leaving. What do you think of that?
RUSH: Well, if theyre glad Im leaving, Neil, then I assume that the governor of New York the unelected governor has no interest in the tax revenue he collects from me, in which case I would ask him to call off his audit dogs. You know, one thing that hasnt been reported in this and Ive mentioned it each time Ive talked about stopping doing business in New York is I left New York as a resident in 1997. I moved down here to Florida, and I have been audited every year. This has been going on since 97. This is 12 years that I have been audited. The most recent audit is for the last three years. Its been going on since October.
CAVUTO: Audited by New York State?
RUSH: New York State. New York State. But the city gets involved, and theyre all involved. Once they start auditing you, everybody wants their piece of you. Im in New York working 15 to 20 days a year, and I have to as part of this audit prove where I am every day of the year 14 different ways. And the tax increase here was just, to me, the tipping point because it isnt worth it. And furthermore, Neil, it isnt going to work! You couple this millionaires tax that starts at $300,000 now, with the desire of the Obama administration to limit executive pay and standard employee pay on Wall Street to a million bucks, half a million, they have no idea the shortfall of tax revenue that their own policies are going to be creating. You said it accurately on Monday afternoon. Its not that I cant afford it, but why would I be stupid? What do I get for it?
Theyve got their own separate welfare state that people like me are promoting in New York, and yet were held out as the villains. Were the ones that are considered to be the problems. Were the targets: the evil CEOs, the evil rich and so forth. I think that in an economic climate like this if theyre going to raise taxes on people, they ought to start whining and dining them. They need to be thanked. These people need to be praised and encouraged to keep working and earning money so that New York can siphon it from them. This is just absurd, the whole thing. I think for the governor to start making jokes about it, Yeah, I would have raised taxes sooner if I would have known that would have gotten rid of Limbaugh, fine. He doesnt want my tax money, then hes not going to get it.
CAVUTO: Yeah, but whats interesting, too, is he went on to say that a lot of them said that theyre going to stay here, talking about other rich individuals not quite as rich as you that people forget that you need very little to qualify for this millionaires tax, about $300 grand will do it for you, even less in some instances. But this is part of a national trend here. I mentioned some of the states, Rush, that, as youve reported as well, are considering doing this. Then what happens? In New Jersey, they keep telling me, Well, the rich didnt leave, but obviously unemployment has been soaring there, so someone is. What do you make of it?
RUSH: Neil, I dont think its a question of people are going to leave. I think in New York, theres been a steady exodus out of Long Island for a long time. Its not just income taxes that are pressuring people there, property taxes. Even though the home values have declined, the property taxes havent. People have been fleeing the northeast, including New York and moving to the southern states, many of them with no state income tax. North Carolina is getting a lot of Yankees moving in.
CAVUTO: Right.
RUSH: Florida is and so forth. I think its already happened. But, you know, Im not... Ive joked and I said, Look if he wants to drive people out of there, Ill lead the way. Im sure that there are people in New York who will stay and put up with this. I mean, liberals are liberals first, and they will be convinced that theyre doing the Lords work here by having more taxes confiscated. If there was some value for it that one could see, but look at the out of control budgets this state has, the out-of-control spending, and the spending cuts are always mythical. Ive never seen a budget get smaller at a state or federal government level. You might have individual bureaucracies that get cut, but overall, budgets never go down.
CAVUTO: So by the same token, Rush, then this tax hike, which were told say three trial
RUSH: Oh, thats a joke too, Neil.
CAVUTO: You also question that, right?
RUSH: Thats a joke, too. If you think any tax increase of this magnitude... If it doesnt work which it wont, Neil theyll be forced to raise taxes again. Its sort of like, you know, when the airlines have problems, what do they do? They lower fares. When the New York public transit system has problem, what do they do? They raise fares! I mean, the government sector does everything the opposite of what the private sector does to compete, and they drive out their best customers. Now, this is, I think, ridiculous to assume that this is going to raise a lot of revenue and its going to be temporary. I know the bridge tolls in all these cities where they built bridges 50 years ago, The tolls are just temporary til we pay for the bridge. All of a sudden theres a new need for education that the lottery is not handling, or theres a new need to cover this or that. They never do with less. Theyre always telling us we should. We have a moral obligation to do with less. You have enough, they say. Its none of their damn business who has what. Its none of their business to decide.
CAVUTO: But are you troubled...? Are you troubled, Rush, that whether youve become the poster child for this but it is clearly a class warfare thing going on and
RUSH: Neil, the
CAVUTO: and now its heated up. What do you think of that?
RUSH: The only reason Im a poster child for it is because Im hated, envied, and despised (chuckling) by people that live there in the media and so forth. Im a convenient target, and this is another way for people to have fun. I think its more serious than that. I left New York in 97 specifically to escape the onerous income taxes I was paying then. Its not a question, like I said, of, I can afford it, or its something that I dont need. Its stupid! Its stupid to waste money and taxes in a profligate and wasteful state like New York are wasted. They do not accomplish anything. You know, really, Neil, if you look at the structure of New York City, with all the high-rise condominiums and apartments and co-ops, those streets ought to be paved with gold just from the property taxes collected from one building!
CAVUTO: (Laughing) Let me ask you then: When you come to New York and do your show for special events, where are you going to stay?
RUSH: Ill check into a hotel.
CAVUTO: (laughing)
RUSH: But I wont come! Im not going to come, Neil, thats the thing. Ill come on weekends, if I want to see some friends or do whatever, if I want to go play golf up on one of the golf courses. Im not going to work there. Thats how Im taxed. The first audit was for seven years.
CAVUTO: Right.
RUSH: And they claimed I owed them X-number of millions. They even wanted to come, Neil, to both my residences, New York and Florida, to see which one was really more lived in, which one had all the pictures. I mean, the hassle these audits has just reached a point.
CAVUTO: But what... Has a tipping point also within the Republican Party? It wasnt too long ago that there was this dustup with you and Michael Steele, the Republican chairman. Youve since tried to step back and say,
Look, its not as bad as it was portrayed in the media, but it is what it is, and there are many Republicans who argue that you speak for this, uh, tax angst thats rampant in the party, this billing-government angst thats rampant in the party. But no one has really stepped up to the plate to address it, either as articulately or as well as you. You know, and thats why they look to you, and it rattles others within the party. So is this proof of a schism in the Republican Party?
RUSH: Well, there are a lot of schisms in the Republican Party. I think youre right. It is proof and I think there are schisms in the conservative movement, which right now is not to be confused with the Republican Party. The conservative movement has people telling us that the era of Reagan is over, that we need to modify, moderate, and move forward. I never hear them say the era of FDR is over. One of the three legs of the stool of Reaganism is tax cuts. Its about individual freedom. Its about liberty. Its not about being tightwad. Its about individuals working in their own self-interest, as hard or as not hard as they want, to create what they want to create and keeping what they earn, Neil.
CAVUTO: Well, who personifies that? Who personifies that best for you, of the up-and-coming Republicans now?
RUSH: Well.. (sigh) Its tough. Its so early. I dont know that theres... I dont want to leave anybody out by mentioning some names. I like the kind of things Im hearing out of Governor Sanford from South Carolina. Ive always admired Governor Palin. I dont think people have any idea what its like to walk in her shoes after what shes been through with the media coverage, but she doesnt back down. But too many elected Republicans right now are just in fear, Neil, of being criticized, of opposing the Obama administration. You know, its a very special, historical time. Were not really to be too vocal about opposing this, which I dont subscribe to at all.
I mean, liberalism is liberalism and its to be defeated and to be opposed every time it pops up, and so if Im a leader, you know, then its just de facto, because elected Republican leadership hasnt yet decided to speak out. I think the alternative budget that the Republicans in the House presented is good on the tax side, cause it does not raise taxes. It makes the Bush tax cuts permanent. Theyve got it good. They just have trouble getting coverage in the media and when they are covered, theyre portrayed as, you know, a bunch of kooks and so forth.
CAVUTO: (laughs)
RUSH: And they dont want to be portrayed that way.
CAVUTO: All right.
RUSH: Were not even a hundred days in. Were going to have to let some of this stuff happen
CAVUTO: All right.
RUSH: let some of it fail, let some of it not work, and that will then inspire others
CAVUTO: Okay, Rush.
RUSH: to start speaking up.
CAVUTO: Thank you, my friend, very much. Rush Limbaugh.
RUSH: Thank you, Neil.
END TRANSCRIPT
bfl
"What if Atlas Shrugged?" -Ayn Rand
While I was growing up on Long Island the NY State sales tax was ZERO. We had schools. We had police. We had roads, and they plowed them when it snowed. There isn't anything the people who now live in that house, in which I grew up, get from the government that my family didn't get except for an eight and one half percent sales tax. (This is more than the profit gained by almost anyone who sells whatever it is.) All of this sales tax money goes entirely to the political class. I think Ayn Rand referred to these people as looters or moochers.
ML/NJ
Thanks GOP_Lady,I support him.
Just what I was going to say. He doesn’t owe anyone any explanation of when, where and why he moves. At least I think we can still move about this country freely, but I could be wrong, it may be NYC won’t let people out, and that would explain why people continue to live there, it can’t be because of the low taxes, the intelligent conversation or the late night comedians.
No need to thank me, fatima. :-)
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