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UAW throws GM under the bus
The Intellectual Redneck ^ | February 14, 2009 | The Intellectual Redneck

Posted on 02/14/2009 4:56:09 PM PST by Askwhy5times

The UAW walked out on concession negotiations, according to an AP news source. They are willing to throw GM under the bus to protect their bloated benefit and pay packages. UAW wages and benefits are almost $30 per hour higher than the Japanese transplants. Unless the UAW realizes the gravity of the situation, GM and Chrysler will be forced into bankruptcy. That is a better alternative for the taxpayers. Then, the bloated UAW contract can be reduced by a judge. Have you ever seen a UAW contract? See a UAW contract here. It weighs 22 pounds. The UAW is not known for reason. A UAW organized plant(Magna New Process Gear plant) recently refused concessions even though the plant would be closed without them. They preferred unemployment to working under a reduced contract. The vote wasn't even close. The UAW rejected the concessions with 76% voting no.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bailout; gmconcessions; uaw
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To: Askwhy5times

“Then, the bloated UAW contract can be reduced by a judge.”

Not if Obama has anything to due with it.


21 posted on 02/14/2009 5:24:26 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: muawiyah
We must stop "card check'. Fighting back against "Card Check" (EFCA)
22 posted on 02/14/2009 5:25:02 PM PST by Askwhy5times (http://bloggingredneck.blogspot.com/)
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To: wita

**So many questions, so few answers.**

And being the answers will be coming from Congress, the Answers are going to be SILLIER than the Questions!!


23 posted on 02/14/2009 5:26:29 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH OBAMA - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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To: bigbob

It is my contention, being in the business of UI, that these Union Members caused their separation from employment, thus, according to UI Law they should be
disqualified from collecting benefits BUT the word has gone out to the Judges to pay them....it is disgusting.


24 posted on 02/14/2009 5:28:28 PM PST by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"The 22Lb. statement is pure bullshit. Subject collection of 11 1/2" X 8" papers contains all the letters of agreement from its first inception until present and has very little to do with the working contract book that is available to every union and non-union employee today.........." Ford’s 2,215 page 2007 master contract see the photo and links here. See a UAW contract here. That thing you pack in your pocket is not the full contract.
25 posted on 02/14/2009 5:29:22 PM PST by Askwhy5times (http://bloggingredneck.blogspot.com/)
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To: jwparkerjr

>> Sadly I fear Congress will cave again.

Why in the world would you think *that*? That sort of behavior by our wise elected officials would be unprecedented. ;-)

But seriously: good post.


26 posted on 02/14/2009 5:30:46 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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To: lilylangtree

I thought that the UAW WAS the mafia.


27 posted on 02/14/2009 5:37:25 PM PST by parthian shot
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To: Askwhy5times

This article is inaccurate...the UAW has agreed to the concessions...a deal was struck. It’s the bondholders who are refusing to budge...one of them is Citibank...bailedout bank. I word for GM, the announcement was made Friday about the Unions.


28 posted on 02/14/2009 5:38:13 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: bronxboy

should read work for GM.


29 posted on 02/14/2009 5:38:45 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: jwparkerjr

Your comment: “Sadly I fear Congress will cave again.”

You are unfortunately correct here. Dems have many ties to organized labor which will place them in the tough spot of going against public opinion when they vote to give in to the unions.

That surely didn’t bother them when they voted for a very unpopular stimulus package .


30 posted on 02/14/2009 5:39:57 PM PST by needtowakeup (-)
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To: Askwhy5times

You guys are missing the point

Obama has the unions back they don’t need the big three auto makers to come to the table

The american taxpayer will pay the union demands


31 posted on 02/14/2009 5:40:20 PM PST by Popman (One useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three is a Congress - John Adams)
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To: bronxboy
This news came over breitbart.com one hour ago. breitbart.com
32 posted on 02/14/2009 5:42:55 PM PST by Askwhy5times (http://bloggingredneck.blogspot.com/)
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To: Askwhy5times
"UAW throws GM under the bus"

Good, return the favor and boot them out the door or close and move where the UAW isn't required. Why does GM have to use the UAW to build cars and trucks?

33 posted on 02/14/2009 5:46:57 PM PST by GBA
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To: Askwhy5times
It looks like either a pre-packaged Ch 11, or...oh that's right, they're too big to fail.

I hope I'm wrong, but it's looking like the excrement is going to hit the oscillator in about 18 months...and it won't be pretty.

BLOAT!

5.56mm

34 posted on 02/14/2009 5:50:11 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: AntiKev
Yes but...if GM goes under, there won't BE any pay or benefits.

Wrongo. If GM goes bankrupt their entire retirement liability becomes the responsibility of the Federal Government. GM is probably trying to renegotiate their retirement funding liabilty and the union has decided it is better to saddle the feds with it. They have the feds in their back pocket they will get a better deal with them.

The union has absolutely no incentive to negotiate their contract down. They know the feds are going to step in in a big way. This is the same reason that banks are holding on to their defunct mortgages. Uncle Sam will pay more for them than they can get from a private investor.

35 posted on 02/14/2009 5:50:19 PM PST by stig
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To: jwparkerjr
The final decision has been kicked upstairs, to the Congress

The Congress knows that the UAW can deliver votes, Democrat Votes. The UAW Believes in socialism, the Taxpayers will support the Union contracts and lifestyle of the Local Officers. Bankruptcy, it aint gonna happen.

36 posted on 02/14/2009 5:50:25 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: Askwhy5times

I called my boss. He says bondholders won’t budge on their money (more reasons to hate Citibank) so they have asked the the UAW to take more cuts in the retirement plan and start paying it now. Union say they can’t do it because the checks would stop-not enough cash...under the new conditions. Hopefully the government will appoint a car czar and deal with UAW and bondholders in a fair manner...everything else is a go.


37 posted on 02/14/2009 5:50:29 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: Askwhy5times

Foot, quit moving so I can shoot you!


38 posted on 02/14/2009 5:51:31 PM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristopherson)
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To: bronxboy

“I called my boss. He says bondholders won’t budge on their money (more reasons to hate Citibank) so they have asked the the UAW to take more cuts in the retirement plan and start paying it now. Union say they can’t do it because the checks would stop-not enough cash...under the new conditions. Hopefully the government will appoint a car czar and deal with UAW and bondholders in a fair manner...everything else is a go.”

According to the Washington Post, bondholders are waiting to see if the UAW will give ant concessions. I guess everyone is playing a big game of chicken.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/13/AR2009021303441.html


39 posted on 02/14/2009 6:22:35 PM PST by Askwhy5times (http://bloggingredneck.blogspot.com/)
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To: Askwhy5times

ant concessions=any concessions. Well...maybe it is ‘ant concessions’ with the UAW. Still sounds like the UAW is the holdup.


40 posted on 02/14/2009 6:24:52 PM PST by Askwhy5times (http://bloggingredneck.blogspot.com/)
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