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1 posted on 01/29/2009 11:29:23 AM PST by mark gordon
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To: mark gordon

can you post the most invasive examples of the census?


2 posted on 01/29/2009 11:33:55 AM PST by Safrguns
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Here here. This country was born by rebellion to tyranny. Most Americans fly the stars and stripes. That's great, but I prefer our first flag:


3 posted on 01/29/2009 11:34:10 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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Welcome to FR!


4 posted on 01/29/2009 11:35:41 AM PST by IGOTMINE (1911s FOREVER!)
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To: mark gordon

Interesting.

It occurs to me that if everyone that didn’t vote for Obama were to refuse to comply with the next US Census, it would rock their world.


5 posted on 01/29/2009 11:36:30 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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You will not be committing civil disobedience by not completing the ACS.

You are free to toss it in the trash.

And the Census Bureau is free to send you more letters.

And you can throw those away.


6 posted on 01/29/2009 11:36:52 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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My MIL received one of those, she had had two strokes and was unable to fill it out. My husband called the “help” number, and told them of the situation.

The “thing” on the other end of the phone practically threatened to send my MIL to jail if it wasn't sent back immediately - that she was to find someone to “do it for her” and, once again - send it in immediately. The person filling out the survey had to be identified as well.

The questions were truly intrusive and, I thought at the time, unconstitutional. Longer story short, “she” did fill it out, with unreadable answers..they got their survey alright...

Thanks for your disobedience. I'd encourage those who have not seen this survey to get the PDF - it is remarkable what the Government thinks it can get away with.

8 posted on 01/29/2009 11:38:22 AM PST by KittenClaws
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9 posted on 01/29/2009 11:38:24 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: mark gordon

If I get this questionaire, I will answer only the questions that I feel are not intrusive.

I will not answer any question on race, income, lifestyle or religion.


10 posted on 01/29/2009 11:39:30 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = serious mental deficiency)
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Here’s the fee for throwing it in the trash according to the Census Bureau:

“The American Community Survey is conducted under the authority of Title 13, United States Code, Sections 141 and 193, and response is mandatory. According to Section 221, persons who do not respond shall be fined not more than $100. Title 18 U.S.C. Section 3571 and Section 3559, in effect amends Title 13 U.S.C. Section 221 by changing the fine for anyone over 18 years old who refuses or willfully neglects to complete the questionnaire or answer questions posed by census takers from a fine of not more than $100 to not more than $5,000. The U.S. Census Bureau may use this information only for statistical purposes. We can assure you that your confidentiality is protected. Title 13 requires the Census Bureau to keep all information about you and all other respondents strictly confidential. Any Census Bureau employee who violates these provisions is subject to a fine of up to $250,000 or a prison sentence of up to five years, or both.

You may view Title 13 at the U. S. House of Representatives website at the following address: http://uscode.house.gov/download/title_13.shtml.";


11 posted on 01/29/2009 11:39:46 AM PST by Jenny217
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I got several last year. I threw them in the trash after a glance.


12 posted on 01/29/2009 11:40:06 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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Here is a blog post with a lot of comments about the ACS and the battles people have had with pain in the rear census workers: http://www.survivalarts.com/archives/001095.html
13 posted on 01/29/2009 11:42:07 AM PST by KarlInOhio (On 9/11 Israel mourned with us while the Palestinians danced in the streets. Who should we support?)
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A few years ago I sent mine back with lots of red ink to show my displeasure.

Sometime later a census contractor showed up at my house for follow up. I got irate and sent them on their way.

Weeks later another one (or same one) showed up and was told to get gone.

The third time I answered the door with a shotgun. I kid you not. They left and never returned.


14 posted on 01/29/2009 11:43:21 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: mark gordon

Claim the Timothy Geithner Exception.


15 posted on 01/29/2009 11:44:17 AM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: Commander in The Effort Against Culturally-Influenced Misbehavior.)
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To: mark gordon

wait until you get the agricultural census. lol, and live in an apartment. Our government is non sensible.


17 posted on 01/29/2009 11:46:35 AM PST by GeronL (Had the flu. Not well yet.)
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Mark, Mark...

Do what I did. I put almost completely false information after being threatened for the 3rd time that I hadn’t returned it.

I also filled it in almost illegibly. If they could read it, more power to them.


18 posted on 01/29/2009 11:47:22 AM PST by x1stcav (11/05/2008: the day the Resistance began.)
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To: mark gordon
This gives the government authority to conduct a census every ten years by enumeration. Any demand placed upon a U.S. Citizen beyond that provision is unconstitutional.

The US Census is not the same as the ACS.

That said, some of the questions are intrusive, most are not. The ACS is used in large part to determine where/how to spend money.

For instance, if ACS answers show that people in Omaha are commuting an average of 25 miles to work now instead of 10 miles several years ago, the Govt may look into spending more money on the highway system in/around Omaha.

19 posted on 01/29/2009 11:47:46 AM PST by gdani
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All the ones who refuse to answer (and I wouldn’t either), probably contribute to the “skewed results” that the Census is getting from only those immigrants and low-income people and illegals answering it — instead.

So, they are getting their answers — which actually show, instead, that you and me don’t exist in this society... :-)


21 posted on 01/29/2009 11:49:15 AM PST by Star Traveler
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I would like to know if the census results are what is used to determine how many house seats a state gets?
30 posted on 01/29/2009 12:07:30 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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I received one of these surveys a few years ago, and refused to fill it out, despite the threatening manner in which the cover letter was written. I held onto it for a while, and because I refused to respond to their artificial deadline, they sent me a letter, offering to send someone ‘round to help with the survey if necessary. And then a second letter arrived, and if memory serves me, a third. All such correspondence went unread.

Then they tried to call me a few times and left the names and numbers of people who were willing to help me with the survey. Once they either left a message (or perhaps it was in one of the letters, I’ve forgotten) they informed me that they could pay a visit to either myself or even my neighbors. No such visit occurred.

So I’d say that you can safely ignore it.

As an aside, my survey included a number of questions about how many people in the household are disabled, and with which types of disabilities, how far I drive to work, whether I have home-health assistance, etc. It was utterly ridiculous. I was perfectly willing to answer some generic questions about how many people live in my household, but what they sent was unbelievably intrusive.


37 posted on 01/29/2009 12:19:37 PM PST by djrakowski
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Op doesn’t like talking to us ;)


39 posted on 01/29/2009 12:23:15 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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