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To: Teacher317; SJSAMPLE; kabar

ENOUGH! Stop it! All of this is besides the point.! Half or more of the posts to me have been on this issue.

The guy did not just squeak on by.

The guy has a lot of people behind him right now.

The guy would have tons more if people started talking CW!

The whole point of my original comment was stop with the CW nonsense. It makes us look ridiculous! And all anyone can focus on is my comments about the margin of victory.

Chairman Barry won by the largest number of voters and a decent % as well. More than Dubya did. And all of that is besides the point. I wish I had never raised it now!

The point is conservatives talking about a 2nd CW looks to the vast majority of America as lunatic fringe! If every single conservative in this country subscribed to that philosophy we’d still be out number almost 7 to 3. It’s not going to help us in 2010 or 2012.


82 posted on 01/20/2009 8:37:51 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: NucSubs

LOL. When you engage in hyperbole and mistatement of facts, you undermine your case. Obama is a polarizing figure. Civil War may be hyperbole as well, but there is a definite possibility that this country will be Balkanized politically and if an amnesty is passed, along cultural and linguistic lines. Obama has firm control of the levers of power in this country as no President of either party has had since LBJ.

I view Obama as possibly the most divisive President we have ever had, including Lincoln. In a nation with rapidly changing demographics--by 2023 half of the children 18 and under will be minorties and by 2042, half of the country will be minorities--and a growing wealth disparity between rich and poor with Hispanics and blacks being the majority of the poor and non-Hispanic whties and asians the "rich," I can see Obama's populist rhetoric polarizing this country even more. Redistribution of wealth will be achieved thru the ballot box as our democratic institutions are taken over by those who don't pay taxes.

93 posted on 01/20/2009 9:20:45 AM PST by kabar
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To: NucSubs

“Besides the point”?

You threw out a bogus “statistic” (did you even bother to check it?) and then tell us to “Stop!”.

It only makes your other arguments or “facts” seem questionable.


95 posted on 01/20/2009 9:28:13 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: NucSubs
The point is conservatives talking about a 2nd CW looks to the vast majority of America as lunatic fringe!

Google for photos from any previous Code Pink rally and then will you still think conservatives talking CW-II is lunatic? I think many here are simply past the point of caring how we're perceived. It's simply not valued by many anymore...perception that is. I think it's a tactical blunder personally, because if it can be alluded to while taking other action unknown to an adversary it can be VERY valuable! But people are frustrated and at wits end.

This nation has been straining for civil war since the 1960s. The south never really got over the atrocities from the first, although forgiveness has been granted for the most part. But that has nothing to do with the future. The past and the reasons behind the first civil war were quite different than why we would have a second.

While I will agree that most talk of CW-II is unfounded and comprised mostly of people blowing off steam, the future situation is volatile at best. I'm not getting good vibes from it in the circles I overlap with. People should watch closely as things digress and prepare accordingly because the situation can and has been changing quickly.

Particularly watch the financial situation and notice that it's not at bottom yet, nor can anybody tell us when it will hit bottom. In spite of this, the experts tell us we're not headed for a depression?! If we're not headed for a depression, then WHAT are we headed for? Is there a different word for it?

Whatever starts another conflict here on American soil will be caused by a power grab, possibly in the wake or midst of the financial crisis. That is what will initiate it. Past that, I have no idea. The financial crisis and the holding of power are intertwined tightly.
145 posted on 01/20/2009 12:36:50 PM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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