I don't see a word of truth in anything you've posted here regarding me. Like most of your posting, it amounts to nothing more than elaborate insult. "Poseur," you cry, over and over -- a slightly politer form of the term MFer, which says nothing about the person insulted, but only about what's going on in YOUR OWN MIND.
Point is, your insults say nothing about me, but do reflect poorly on you.
YHAOS:"from 1,817 YHAOS: "You’ve been in a fight (discussion) about which you are clueless. End the chicken dance and end this discussion. Until you at least get a clue."
Just an insult, no actual argument here.
YHAOS:"On Jan 25 (see post #1447) I pointed out to you a whole raft of world-renowned scientists who make value judgments (philosophical statements) that they freely admit are derived from scientific facts."
This and the rest of your post are pure 100% bull cr*p. Somehow you fantasize you've discovered a Deep Truth that relates to me, but it's just nonsense.
From the beginning my response has been: some scientists are Christians, some hold other religions and some are atheists. All are entitled to use ideas from science to support their own religious beliefs, or lack of, and the rest of us are perfectly entitled to weigh their opinions on religion appropriately.
Point is, an opinion on religion is still just an opinion, even if it comes from a scientist.
But this particular thread discusses the fact that some people of a certain view claim their religion is a form of "science," and that real science is just another form of religion. That's what I oppose.
Your Big Idea -- that the opinions of some scientists have overstepped the limits of what science by definition is supposed to be (natural explanations for natural occurrences), is irrelevant to this discussion.
We are not debating personal opinions of some scientists -- every profession has a fair share of goofballs. But we are discussing the claims of some religious people that their religious beliefs are a legitimate form of science.
So now it turns out, you refuse to defend those religious beliefs, all the while elaborately insulting me for identifying as personal opinions the atheism of some scientists.
So I think it you that's clueless, Poseur Maximus! ;-)
You see it well enough, but you dare not admit it. You whine that it’s not fair that I don’t argue in the manner you expect. As I predicted, from the start, you’ve nothing but great billowing clouds of smoke and denials in your struggle to disguise your utter futility.
You accused me of attacking science (see post #1808 “But when anyone points out how ridiculous your attacks on science are . . .”). I demanded you produce the attacks – to cite them and quote them. You’ve produced nothing but a lot noisy gaseous discharges.
Produce or recant, Poseur.