YHAOS:"End Quotes.
"End your dancing or end the discussion."
This time you've managed to select out quotes, none of which come from me. Nor do I remember reading them on this thread. So I can't say what their contexts might have been.
Nor would I defend them, since most are obviously intended as insults, rather than arguments.
But here is what's obviously true about them:
That's being absurd and insulting, and if you take my warnings seriously, you'd stop both.
Most people know the real truth of this matter: lots of real scientists are also Christians who do perfectly honest scientific work, and who fully understand the difference between science and religion. As long as they are not inserting religious doctrine into their scientific results, they have no more problem than anyone else getting recognized.
”But here is what's obviously true about them:”
Oh! Boy! Your contention was that you knew of no scientists who declared God to not exist. I gave you a list of quotations showing that there are scientists who do. That is the context of this conversation (see post #1787 & #1744). You persist in trying to shift the ground to some other context. That is the tactic of someone who is not comfortable with the way things are going, and wants very badly to change the subject.
”None refer to Christians, so they are not "badgering and denouncing Christians" as you previously claimed.”
Remember, your words, not mine. The quotes you cite in your post #1805 refer to Christians. The rest that do not refer to Christians are addressed to Christians.
”All seem to reference ID-Creation "science," or "scientists."”
Exactly. (Now, gentle readers, we can all see what denial mode this is headed for.)
”None "declare God not to exist," as you pretend.”
Or does not demean and mock Christians, as you pretend? (To demean or mock Christians, or Jews, is to deny God. ‘Tis an age-old Biblical tradition and much followed in the world today.)
"a local origin myth of a tribe of Middle-Eastern camel-herders" Does not deny both Genesis and God (as well as demean and mock)?
". . . anyone who gets the vapors from a little teasing should find another forum to frequent." Does not demean and mock?
"Do you know some that do? How many are biologists? How many of those are named Steve" Does not demean and mock anyone who espouses ID?
"To which "God" do you refer? The name "God" has been applied to numerous deity constructs, many of which are mutually exclusive." Does not deny God?
"Theology not only presupposes, but is a field that studies the nature and worship of a being or beings that materialism deems not to exist. What could materialism have to say except that theology is a null endeavor?" Not a flat denial of God?
"That's why science arose, to correct such error-prone methods by comparing various potential explanations against reality itself." Theology just can’t come up to scratch when compared to Science. This from Scientists who disclaim any comparison between Theology and Science until they wish to make it.
"Opinion is the useless babble and clutter of random thought that is absent of knowledge." God is just another opinion, like a taste for fried onions on steak.
"Opinion seeks its agenda by name calling, lack of knowledge, accusation, misrepresentation, distortion of terms, other unethical acts and in the end when frustrated violence." A highly selected opinion itself directed against Christianity, when it could be equally applied against most any group.
"The thing I don't understand about ID is why an intelligent designer would lavish so much love and attention on the bacterial flagellum -- a device whose primary function is to cause dysentery and kill infants and children." Does not deny God by demeaning Him?
"Perhaps the intelligent designer [God] is a really late term abortionist." Ditto.
"If a human engineer designed a system whose primary attribute is endless pain and horror, we would call him a psychopath." Ditto again.
"Why would a very intelligent being create a system that perpetuates continuous horror and pain for most living things?" And again.
"Even God dabbles in genocide when it's convenient. Either directly or through His minions." And again.
"Genocide, hatred, warfare, etc, have been around as long as we have recorded history, and probably before. Even your Bible talks about it." And again.
"Perhaps we should compare the number of clergymen convicted of child molestation with the number of biology teachers convicted of child molestation." Demeans Christians.
"Can you say American Taliban?" Ditto.
"Going to heaven or hell is quite different. There is zero evidence either scientifically or historically, and if you lead your life full of a "terrible fear", the outcome is the same." Does not deny God by demeaning Christian belief?
"When you start having to protest that you're not a creationist, you're doing too good of an imitation of a pig-ignorant moron." Ditto.
Me: "Then we can say that no idea, hypothesis, or theory identified with science will be even accepted for debate and consideration if it is offered by a Christian. Yeah, I think that sums up your attitude."
You: “That's being absurd and insulting . . .”
Yeah, that’s what you say, but when the heat’s off, you’re back out on the same street corner selling the same snake oil.
”Most people know the real truth of this matter”
They sure do. And, I would think that knowledge would tend to sober you up. But apparently not.
OK. Ready for the next round of smoke and snake oil . . . er, denials.