You are pretty hung up on *real* scientists. Just for the record, because I don't recall seeing it posted anywhere, what field is your degree in?
If you've read the posts from YHAOS, you might note that he makes a big deal of the fact I'm just a regular guy who "pounds sand" for living and likes read books. That gives YHAOS unlimited authority to insult me and downplay my intelligence. YHAOS wants us to understand that his own background is so vastly superior he can barely bring himself to talk down at my level! ;-)
I do actually have some education, including science, and some degrees though not in science. But I am in no way trying to pass myself off here as any kind of expert in anything. I think everything I say here can be referenced back to some genuine "voice of authority," and when it can't, such as my misstatement on "MACRO-evolution," I'm certain you will call me on it, and cause me to correct myself.
As for the "real scientists," I think there is an actual discipline called "science," which includes the "scientific method," and certain rules for thinking, which have to be practiced by anyone doing the work of a "scientist." Evolution theory meets these standards, while anti-evolution, so far at least, does not.
I think scientists themselves criticize each other in scientific debates every day. But I don't think our ID-Creationists have ever qualified themselves, or their criticisms of science itself, as "real scientists" criticizing other "real scientists."
Obviously, that's just my opinion, and you are free to disagree. But I've seen nothing convincing to say you're right on this.