Posted on 01/04/2009 5:39:47 AM PST by PurpleMountains
All across the country, archeologists, paleontologists and biologists are taking part in what is perhaps the greatest example of political correctness in history – their adherence to Darwinism and their attempts to ostracize any scientist who does not agree with them. In doing so, they are not only ignoring the vast buildup of recent scientific discoveries that seriously undermines the basics of Darwinism, but they are also participating, due to politically correctness, in a belief system that indirectly resulted in the deaths of millions of people – those slaughtered by the Stalins, the Hitlers, the Maos, the Pol Pots and others who took their cue from Darwinism’s tenets.
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It's interesting that you say this, for this is exactly what is recommended to be done, if not actually done. It's not that God is excluded from consideration as an explanation for the existence of things, it's just that in order to study how things relate to, and affect each other, we have to start from the point where God has left off.
Now here, from earlier in the same post, these are also your words.
"Having scientists demand that God not be considered as even existing is excluding God from the debate. Same as demanding that even if He did exist, He does not play any role in nature now."
Essentially, what we do these days is to avoid the flowery and pious phraseology of a bygone era, in order to more simply and directly get to the point.
"By the Grace of God, and the Mercy of His Provenance, we assemble here to examine the deceased carcass of Drosophila Melanogaster, which being the sad remains of a dutiful servant of the Lord."But I would not altogether suggest that God has entirely left the playing field. By my lights, the last time God left a possible fingerprint was but a few years ago, as he and a researcher were having a quiet walk on the beach.
That researcher came back from his walk with the image of PCR seared in his mind, and the world of DNA research has not been the same since.
I’ll betcha my buddy Avogadro isn’t anywhere near that neighborhood.
6*10^23? One mole of molecules.
What is your point?
His address is way different, just judging by his number.
“By the Grace of God, his holy Protein X interacts with the sacred DNA sequence Y to transcribe gene Z in response to hormone A, so long as God wishes it to be so, under the observation of his humble servant, in accordance with God's will”.
Was my rather unimaginative attempt.
But I like your...
“By the Grace of God, and the Mercy of His Provenance, we assemble here to examine the deceased carcass of Drosophila Melanogaster, which being the sad remains of a dutiful servant of the Lord.”
LOL. Suppose so.
I guess by way of explanation the numbers are the difference count of a particular DNA sequence between different members of the ape group.
Yes, certainly they have. Perhaps a more interesting question is whether the discussions on the crevo threads change the minds of any of the participants. I'm unable to think of an example of where that ever occurred.
I will concede that it's quite possible that minds have been changed among those who read and don't participate, but that's pretty hard to quantify.
What we do see is animosity building shortly after the original article or post has been made, and then the thread becomes a generic discussion about evolution in general, often only vaguely related to the thread post.
I'm not sure it's all that helpful to the participants, because it quickly becomes a case of posters on one side patting other teammates on the back while taking turns attacking the other side.
Nothing ever gets resolved on the thread, especially since those who try to find common ground are either ignored or are attacked by both sides.
The thread finally ends when both sides tire of the battle for the moment.
There is no “we evolved and apes did not evolve”. We all evolved. You can count the changes that accumulated in that DNA sequence as you go along the branches.
Count the changes from one branch to the other and you can see that we have all evolved, together, and then separately; at least that is the unmistakable conclusion if you understand the data.
Your reasoning seems flawed to me. For what if "everybody" agrees that it is "objectively observable" and "empirically measurable" from (tainted) evidence, that Jews are "bad"; and that therefore it is "reasonable" that all Jews should be killed?
On what basis could you declare that such a "finding" is wrong?
Truth is not something produced by a public opinion poll. It is the deep structure and order of our universe.
And it is not an "accident."
I’ve not heard a creationist yet assert that Noah put every breed of dog on the ark, so they’re willing to accept that Rottweilers and chihuahuas could have become which each is today in less than 4,000 years.
They defend that by saying that, of course, changes occur within “kinds” or species, perhaps at a very dramatic rate. Perhaps at a rate that even science would have trouble accepting.
Yet the DNA between humans and chimpanzees is somewhere between 95-98% identical. A 95 will get you in A in most of your college classes, and a 98 surely will.
If the poodle and the Saint Bernard and the wolf and the fox had a common ancestor, it seems logical to wonder whether the humans and the apes had one, too.
I promise faithfully that when and if I get a response, it will be posted in full at FR.
Damn the torpedoes, etc.
I’m going to back off my promise to this extent: I’ll only post the reply if I have permission from the webmaster.
Of course. Failing all else, you can relate the gist of the response.
The art of the insult is not dead...
Beautiful example..
Don’t confuse common descent with common design.
Our DNA would be expected to be very similar because we look similar and live in virtually identical environments and eat basically the same food.
Would you consider it evidence of intelligent design or creation if genetically we were wildly different?
There’s always FReepmail if that doesn’t result in copyright infringement.
Lets see the cadre of Boopsters debate these points..
It seems what-ever you say there is a cadre that begs to differ..
One shaman posits that the quality of your enemies..
Adds to your fame..
Eating basically the same food makes your DNA similar to other creatures? My dog will eat pizza all day long. How long before that changes him into a hominid?
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