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Berg Lawsuit Takes Strange Twist
PUMA For Life ^ | 12-26-08

Posted on 12/29/2008 8:34:26 PM PST by STARWISE

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To: advance_copy

I have friends who live in HI and power outages are not uncommon. Don’t know exactly about due to lightning. A while ago there was an earthquake on the Big Island and Oahu elect. went out too, for at least 24 hours.


41 posted on 12/29/2008 11:04:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: little jeremiah

That’s what he claims.


42 posted on 12/29/2008 11:09:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: plain talk
announces what / when? When has the SC ever had a hearing and announced a ruling within 4 days?

When was the last time the SC was faced with determining whether a President-elect was actually eligible under the Constitution to BE President?

This is unlike any other case to ever be brought before the SCOTUS.
43 posted on 12/30/2008 3:23:37 AM PST by mkjessup
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To: STARWISE
>>>Jeff Berg at America ’s Right thinks...

Jeff Berg??

44 posted on 12/30/2008 3:24:58 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Not all the states reported their Electoral Votes:

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2008/certificates-of-vote.html


45 posted on 12/30/2008 3:36:14 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
OK, so from your provided link:

December 15, 2008

Meetings of Electors and Transmission of Certificates of Vote to NARA

The electors meet in their State to select the President and Vice President of the United States. No Constitutional provision or Federal law requires electors to vote in accordance with the popular vote in their States. NARA's web site lists the States that have laws to bind electors to candidates. The electors record their votes on six "Certificates of Vote," which are paired with the six remaining Certificates of Ascertainment. The electors sign, seal and certify packages of electoral votes and immediately send one set of votes to the President of the Senate and two sets to the Archivist. The Federal Register preserves one archival set and holds the reserve set subject to the call of the President of the Senate to replace missing or incomplete electoral votes.

December 24, 2008

Deadline for Receipt of Electoral Votes at NARA

The President of the Senate and the Archivist should have the electoral votes in hand by December 24, 2008 (States face no legal penalty for failure to comply). If votes are lost or delayed, the Archivist may take extraordinary measures to retrieve duplicate originals.

What is the significance of this, if any? Does the comment on the blog have any validity, as far as asserting extraordinary circumstances?

Thanks for the reply, by the way.

46 posted on 12/30/2008 3:50:01 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I only have the paraphrase from the comment on the blog. But, the Legal Affairs and Policy Staff Office of the Federal Register did verify to us in on 12/24 that the information at NARA.gov is correct. Nothing on the site has changed since 12/24 (except a mis-scan of the Indiana Electoral Votes).

I’ve specifically been watching for California’s electoral votes. Alan Keyes’ team has been fighting those and they were never certified.

I’m hoping we won since we don’t see them.


47 posted on 12/30/2008 3:58:46 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: LucyT; Iowan

I’m hoping Donofrio actually made an impact too. I still don’t see NJ’s Electoral Votes.

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2008/certificates-of-vote.html


48 posted on 12/30/2008 4:00:13 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

New Jersey isn’t there, either.


49 posted on 12/30/2008 4:02:12 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Calpernia

Oops, beat me to it. Connecticut is missing from the list, too.


50 posted on 12/30/2008 4:04:39 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I think all the states that had Roger on them are missing. But I can’t tell because he had stand ins on some of the ballots and I’m confused by what that meant.


51 posted on 12/30/2008 4:07:50 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Oh, to clarify, California didn’t have Roger on the ballot; but they did have an elector that died in 2001.


52 posted on 12/30/2008 4:09:11 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

....who had an active voting status.


53 posted on 12/30/2008 4:09:52 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: advance_copy

Such an amendment, even if Reid & Pelosi could marshal it through for 2/3 approval in both houses in a day or so, would have to be approved by 3/4 of the States, not 2/3. (Read Article V.)

That’s 38 States, and there is no way they will find 38 States that would approve it, especially in a day or so. State legislators in many States would be inundated with complaints and demonstrations by voters and other citizens.

I say: No way, Jose.


54 posted on 12/30/2008 4:11:50 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Calpernia

It’s early here, so I don’t recall which states actually allowed Calero on the ballot, but there weren’t that many. If they’re all missing, then it’s tempting to think that the suit(s) have had an impact.

Washington is on the list. I’d assume that the Washington SoS Reed would proceed as normal; to do otherwise could have an adverse effect for the State, as far as the lawsuit.


55 posted on 12/30/2008 4:24:49 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Calpernia
I've been intrigued by Roger Calero being named as Frank Calero in Broe v. Reed.. Sounds like a trap for allowing ballot access to candidates under an alias to me.
56 posted on 12/30/2008 4:36:10 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: advance_copy
Are you laughing?

Heartily.

57 posted on 12/30/2008 4:39:47 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: RegulatorCountry

He wasn’t just on the ballot in some states though. He had stand ins for some states. Which is why I’m not sure if my theory is correct because I’ve never heard of a ballot stand in before and I have no idea how that works.

NJ was also not up to requirements with the HAVA Act and under federal order in 2006 not to have elections until the requirements were met. So NJ being absent from the Elector list may not have anything to do with the Donofrio case.

I just don’t know.


58 posted on 12/30/2008 4:40:51 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

Allowing a stand in like that seems problematic to me, an invitation to a “straw man” President. But, it gets past the eligibility clause.


59 posted on 12/30/2008 4:47:26 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: mkjessup
This is unlike any other case to ever be brought before the SCOTUS.

Ditto. Do you realize that after Jan 8, all of us will have standing and can individualy or collectively Challenge Obama's election and subsequent actions if elected, for which a number of statutes snd determinations

I have mentioned it in other threads that if the House approves the vote of the electoral college on Jan8, then the Writ of Certiori scheduled for Jan9 will be granted, paving the way for the injunction to be heard on Jan 16. SCOTUS will take the time to discuss the ramifications of the pending decision, and they will grant the injunction if the House does nothing to halt the electoral process.

Jan 16 is the key date for that will be the date SCOTUS will set aside the House's decision to validate the electoral votes and will demand that Obama prove his Constitutional eligibility before prior to the vote count.

And, it will be true that every US citizen, 18 or older, will now have standing to also challenge Obama's election. This will also be the reason why they will have no other choice but to act if Obamaclears the Congressional hurdles.

I fully expect to see motions made in the House to set aside the vote count until Obama produces the genuine proof of his eligibility -- beginning with the original BC and other documentation that BHO has kept secret.

60 posted on 12/30/2008 4:49:55 AM PST by Polarik (quote)
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