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To: metmom
If you can show me how to miracle myself a new set of teeth or perfect vision, I'll fall to my knees, accept Jesus and do missionary work in Iraq.

This is a genuine offer.

I suspect that once medical science discovers a way to give me both, you'll find some obscure passage in the Bible and claim - a-ha! - that it was foretold in your good book and, don't ya know, those atheistic scientists are just confirming your book, again.

532 posted on 12/28/2008 6:01:01 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: CE2949BB

Funny that you should mention miracles.

For one thing, people don’t just decide to miracle themselves; God does it for them.

Even if science can come up with a way to do those things, it would still not be possible for a person to decide it as an act of will; it would have to be done to them.

As far as science dealing with stuff like healings, they’re just catching up again. Healings have happened in the past. Healings are happening in the present and will continue.

I’ve mentioned my doctor friend who prays for those patients of his who wish it, and they get healed, verified by scans and tests.

My daughter got healed from allergies and asthma after getting prayed for, verified by medical tests.

I have other friends from church who have been prayed for and healed from diabetes and high cholesterol, cancer, a hole in the heart, etc, all verified by the medical community.

Does God heal every time? No. Does science have any cures for anything? No. It has treatments and generally they help, but do not cure. So science doesn’t really have anything up on God in that regard, either.

What science cannot do is deal with the deepest longings of the human heart. When I was at the end of myself and in despair, I turned to the God of the Bible who I wasn’t even sure existed. I told Him that if He was real and He could straighten out this mess of a life of mine, He could have it, and I told Him the same thing you said you would, that I’d become a missionary and go to Africa. (That was the most desperate thing that I could think of at the time. It was at the bottom of my THINGS TO DO list.)

Well, He took me up on part of that; He did straighten out my life but never demanded that I go to Africa, (much to my relief).


535 posted on 12/28/2008 6:24:32 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: CE2949BB; metmom
An analogy about miracles and technology presented as a joke that was around after Katrina.


A man was on the porch roof of his farm house during Katrina as the flood waters were rising. He prayed: "God, save me from this disaster." He prayed very hard.

While he was praying a large truck came by, sloshing through the five foot deep swirling waters, with several people on the bed, and the driver said "Come on, I'll take you to higher ground."

The man on the porch roof said, "No, that's all right. I have my faith in God and He will save me." He prayed harder as the truck drove on to the next farm house.

The water kept rising and now it was twelve feet high and the man had climbed onto the roof of his farm house and was sitting a-straddle of the peak. Several hours later a boat came by and the pilot of the boat said "Hop in."

The man on the roof said, "No, I don't need to, my faith in God will rescue me. I'm waiting for Him." The pilot of the boat said "Suit your self" and sailed away. The man prayed harder.

A couple of hours later, the water was over the roof and the man was standing on his chimney, clinging to his TV antenna. A helicopter came flying low over head and the pilot yelled down, "Hold on, we'll send a rope down! Tie it around you and we'll pull you up!"

The man said, "I trust in God! He will save me!" and refused to tie the rope around himself. He prayed even harder as the frustrated helicopter pilot and crew flew off.

The water rose even higher until it swept the house and the man away. He drowned—and suddenly the found himself facing the Judgement Seat. He faced God and said "I trusted in you! Why didn't you save me?! Where were you?!"

God shook his head and said "I sent you a truck, a boat, and a helicopter. What more did you want? A miracle?"


Sometimes CE, the miracle IS the doctor with his medicine and technology just being there when it is needed.

678 posted on 12/30/2008 12:41:37 AM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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