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To: CE2949BB

I am deeply disappointed. I expected an intelligent discussion and what I got was a kneejerk, defensive argument. Shame. To sink to your level for a moment and make it personal, I’ll just point out that Rand had the same problem when having to confront the fact that parts of her belief system were just as mystical as those she decried as mystics.

Your saying that Objectivist morality is based on reality doesn’t make it so anymore than a YEC saying the Earth is 6,000 years old is based on reality makes it so. You can’t just say rights exist, loosely base your conclusion on years of history, and call it a day. Rights are inherently abstract concepts. If nothing is supernatural, then the reality is that “natural rights’ are nothing more than mere constructions by the majority and a matter of convenience, not reality. Under such a system, you murdering someone is not morally wrong. It may cause a problem for civilization if done on a large scale, but there really is nothing wrong with you doing what you can if you can get away with it.


460 posted on 12/28/2008 11:22:32 AM PST by NinoFan
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To: NinoFan
To sink to your level for a moment and make it personal, I’ll just point out that Rand had the same problem when having to confront the fact that parts of her belief system were just as mystical as those she decried as mystics.

Such as?

If nothing is supernatural, then the reality is that “natural rights’ are nothing more than mere constructions by the majority and a matter of convenience, not reality. Under such a system, you murdering someone is not morally wrong. It may cause a problem for civilization if done on a large scale, but there really is nothing wrong with you doing what you can if you can get away with it.

Sigh. If a belief in God is the only thing stopping you from murdering, I hope your faith remains as solid as a rock.

463 posted on 12/28/2008 11:42:18 AM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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