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Israel's Kadima Party's Strategy--->Suicide Through Peace
Front Page Mag/Yidwithlid ^ | 12/22/08 | Yidwithlid

Posted on 12/21/2008 9:52:51 PM PST by Shellybenoit

Israel has a crisis of leadership. Ever since the "Oslo process" began leaders have had their heads in the sand. They are so consumed with a desire for peace, that they refuse to recognize the real facts surrounding them. The Palestinian side has made NO move toward peace. The past 15 years have proved that the basic assumption and paradigms of the Israeli peace camp are wrong and are dangerous to Israel ’s existence.

As Israel moves toward the next election the choice is clear, the Kadima/Labor side will give up anything for peace, the Likud side wishes peace also, but not a the one-sided "illusion of peace" that Israel leaders since Rabin have pursued.

Moshe Yaalon is one of the few Israeli politicians with a vision and will be the defense minister if Likud wins the election in a few weeks:

The key, Yaalon believes, is in a leadership that projects a vision and a way, and with an education that stresses values that strengthen the belief in the “justness of our (Israel) cause.”

There is much more to Yaalon's vision:

(Excerpt) Read more at yidwithlid.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: israel; kadima; likud

1 posted on 12/21/2008 9:52:51 PM PST by Shellybenoit
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To: Shellybenoit
It is most natural that the Israeli government and people would be anxious for peace. After all, when leaders of the Zionist movement began to press for the establishment of a Jewish state, few beloved that the new country would be in constant conflict with its neighbors. This attitude was naive but understandable. Now, after six decades far too many Israelis succumb to the natural but dangerous delusion that peace with the Arabs is possible. A more realistic appraisal of Israel's position can be gained from the Bible. Conflict with neighbors runs like a thread through the Bible. If Israelis want to hold onto the land that generations of Jews prayed for and thousands of Israelis died for, the country must come to the realization that the only way for “peace” with the Arabs is for all the Jews to leave the area. God forbid that a catastrophe should ever happen but it might if the peace movement gains ascendancy in Israeli politics.
2 posted on 12/21/2008 10:21:46 PM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: quadrant
“the peace movement gains ascendancy in Israeli politics. “

Okay, name us one Peace Party in any major area of the world at any time in history, whose myopic view was nothing but an innocent childs dream.

Just one.

3 posted on 12/21/2008 10:28:47 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: Shellybenoit

If you are going to report from Israel, why this garbage, which is not even good election propaganda. Kadimah has not issued their platform yet and I’m sure it will not include the word “suicide.”

In Israel there is no such thing as a majority government and there is no support among the public for any treaty that will lose the country half its capital Jerusalem or any of the larger settlements in Judea and Samaria or rights to the underground water there.

You need 61 seats to form a majority. In the latest poll Kadimah (Livni) and Likud (Netanyahu) are tied at 30 apiece. They are both centre-right parties. Labor, the party of Oslo, the elite, and the crowd that ruled from Independence (left wing), is tanking at 12, Beitanu (right wing) is at 11, Shas (Sephardi-haredi) at 8, and Meretz (left wing) at 7. Shas always polls less than what they get, so you can jack them up. Do your math, whoever goes in, unless it’s a Kadimah-Likud coalition, will need Shas, and in recent years they have swung sharply to the right.

Kadimah by putting four women in the top 10 spots is coming on strong, but it will depend on the platform since Livni is an unknown quantity although her number two, Mofaz, the former chief of staff, is as strong on protecting Israel’s future as Netanyahu. They also have the best justice minister, Friedmann, we’ve ever had because he’s knocking down the exaggerated influence of the Supreme Court which no one ever dared to do before. On the other hand Bibi has been strengthened by the return of Benny Begin, who still has wide appeal.

If the economy goes in a tailspin following world events, that will be the issue that voters cast their ballots on, not foreign affairs. In this case Bibi as a successful finance minister in the past has the edge.


4 posted on 12/21/2008 11:23:21 PM PST by idov
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To: JSteff
I agree with you, but there exists within some (but not all) segments of Israeli society an desire for “normalization”. This yearning to live a peaceful life has convinced far too many Israelis that they can trust the Arabs. This desire - this weariness from the stress of living in a state in constant preparation for war - is understandable, especially if coupled with appeals (however specious) for “justice” and the slightest overture of peace from the other side. However distasteful, Israelis must recognize that Muslims will never surrender their desire “drive the Zionists into the sea.” Muslims may make tactical retreats and concessions but the overall strategic goal is the same.
5 posted on 12/22/2008 8:39:13 AM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: quadrant

“Muslims may make tactical retreats and concessions but the overall strategic goal is the same. “

Sort of like the Dem party in this country.


6 posted on 12/22/2008 1:26:59 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: JSteff

agreed.


7 posted on 12/22/2008 1:42:08 PM PST by quadrant (1o)
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