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Barack Obama would not qualify for High Security Clearance due to prior admitted drug use
See post | 11/29/2008 | Autumnraine

Posted on 11/29/2008 8:16:30 AM PST by autumnraine

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To: autumnraine

If you`ll recall,”Dubya” admitted to using Coke in college,& also that He had a DUI during the 70`s..Everyone has something or other in their past that they`re not proud of.One stupid mistake shouldnt ruin your entire life,before or after........


21 posted on 11/29/2008 8:50:08 AM PST by Dirty Pierre
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To: Dirty Pierre

I don’t recall him admitting. I recall it being said and him never saying one way or another.


22 posted on 11/29/2008 8:51:03 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: jimtorr

>>>>>He was a member of the senate intel committee, if not it’s chairman, when he blew an active intelligence source to the press.<<<<<<

“Losing access” isn’t the same as “losing clearance.”

Congressmen do not go through the formal clearance process e.g. SF85.


23 posted on 11/29/2008 8:59:41 AM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: SouthDixie

Don’t you need to produce some type of background information, that includes information on circumstances of birth, in order to qualify for a secret clearance? Will we have a POTUS without a secret clearance in these uncertain times who has access to nukes?

America, you have a death wish and it will be granted.


24 posted on 11/29/2008 9:27:24 AM PST by 353FMG (The sky is not falling, yet.)
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To: autumnraine

There is a little wiggle room as he was never convicted. It says “may be disqualifying”.

If there are no court convictions but a person comes clean about the one time he tried dope and puked and never did it again, and his record otherwise is clean, that is a different kind of guy than one who doesn’t have a record but smoked it for years, or dealt it, or still has one every once in awhile.

Of course, barry was a habitual user so even with the ‘wiggle room’ the chances would be very slim they’d let him have a security clearance. Such a person would have to REALLY be someone with skills and talents they just can’t easily find, to overlook that kind of background.


25 posted on 11/29/2008 10:00:15 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: angkor

That begs to question as to whether the military or nsa or cia or fbi will trust him enough to tell him everything. Didn’t this become an issue with the truman admin?


26 posted on 11/29/2008 10:06:15 AM PST by Always Independent
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To: Always Independent

It will be a concern if Bill The Bomber Ayers is hanging around the White House.


27 posted on 11/29/2008 10:13:11 AM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: autumnraine
Good post. And true. But who will have the courage to enforce it? My son is a Deputy Sheriff. He works on a military base and it took them a year to investigate his background in order to get his security clearance. What he had to go through simply to become a Deputy was 100 times more than what BO has done and BO would have been rejected. Yet another case where regular citizens are held to a much higher standard.
28 posted on 11/29/2008 10:13:54 AM PST by ethical
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To: Dirty Pierre
Everyone has something or other in their past that they`re not proud of.One stupid mistake shouldnt ruin your entire life,before or after........

The FBI has stopped disqualifying people for past marijuana use. Too many well-qualified applicants were being turned away.

29 posted on 11/29/2008 10:16:56 AM PST by Drew68
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To: autumnraine

Back when I was in college (late 1980’s), a buddy (white male) interviewed for a DoD job and was turned down immediately upon confessing to having used recreational drugs. I did work for DoD for a while, and met a woman who told me she used them and still got a clearance. There may be some affirmative action in the investigations — obviously two cases don’t prove anything.


30 posted on 11/29/2008 10:18:35 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: autumnraine; nuconvert; Twinkie; AngrySpud; omega4179; Secret Agent Man

Fellow Freepers — I am a long-standing member of this board so don’t take me as a troll. But I must say categorically that you all wrong.

The DOD routinely clears people who used drugs, some very extensively. I know a fellow who was an LSD and acid user in the 1970s in college who gave it up, got a PhD in EE, and became a top scientist in classified circles.

The key here is that the drug use is in the past. Which is probably very true for Obama.

Sorry to burst your balloon(s). This post should really come to a quick and painless end.

Spoken by a man who has held clearances all his life — but was never a drug user.


31 posted on 11/29/2008 10:34:08 AM PST by tom h
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To: tom h

I appreciate your input.

I was merely going by the information I discovered, but if you know they don’t care about it, then it isn’t an issue.

Thank you.


32 posted on 11/29/2008 10:37:05 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: autumnraine; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; PhilDragoo; ...

Thank you, autumnraine.

Ping.


33 posted on 11/29/2008 11:55:29 AM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: autumnraine; LucyT; ExTexasRedhead; AJFavish; David; ckilmer; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; ...
Obama wouldn't qualify for a security clearance on any level.

Ironically, he would have to fill out a questionnaire which asks, among a slew of other items, his place of birth. He would likely have answered "Honolulu, HI." Then the FBI would check this out and ... I think you know what they would probably find.

34 posted on 11/29/2008 12:21:46 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

GOOD POINT!

You are right. Any false answer given on a SF86 is automatic rejection.

Dang. Please God, I have prayed this everyday, but I continue my prayer that you do not let this man get into office. I would even accept (gag) Joe Biden, but not Barack Obama. I’m frightened enough at the briefings he has already seen!


35 posted on 11/29/2008 12:23:45 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: autumnraine
Obama would be prohibited from gaining security clearance just for the close associations he's had with terrorists.

Then, there this felony fraud change coming down the pike that would also bar him.

36 posted on 11/29/2008 12:32:25 PM PST by Polarik
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To: autumnraine
tom h is pointing out to you that the reason this is a non-starter is that all these people, once elected, are endowed with the Public Trust, hence they are not subject to a security clearance, regardless that members of their staff are. They are given access to Top Secret, highly confidential material because the people in this country have allowed it to be so, no other reason than that. If this was something that really concerned people, there would be more of an issue made over character, past behavior, troubling associates/friends/longtime relationships. I've posted on other threads, BECAUSE they receive instant access to this stuff through their being endowed with the Public Trust, the first obligation of the voter is to determine whether or not they are trustworthy.

It is not tom h to whom you need to question whether or not this is an issue, nor even others here on Free Republic. I would suggest that you make this information known to the wider circle of your own friends, associates, who may not be aware that Reps, Senators, Pres and Veep are all able to look at whatever TS info they wish, sit on the Intell committees, deal with all manner of shady characters, no stopping them and tell them they may wish to investigate into the backgrounds of their favored candidates a mite further than they have previously.

37 posted on 11/29/2008 12:36:24 PM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: autumnraine

Yeah - this security clearance thing annoys me. I made sure that I was truthful and honest on my SF86 - it’s worse if they catch you lying and I had drug use and alcohol abuse in my past which I have grown apart from and cleaned myself up - but I still could not get a special secret clearance (have a secret) because not enough time had passed - it’s annoying that someone like me, not even in the national spotlight or representing the country to the rest of the world would get denied by this guy w/ all his drug use, voter fraud, associations, shady money deals and international campaign financing gets one! I’m LIVID!


38 posted on 11/29/2008 12:44:09 PM PST by Lilpug15 (I'm Moving to Alaska...You can Keep THE CHANGE!)
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To: justiceseeker93
Ironically, he would have to fill out a questionnaire which asks, among a slew of other items, his place of birth. He would likely have answered "Honolulu, HI." Then the FBI would check this out and ... I think you know what they would probably find.

Oh, for cryin' out loud.

Rest assured, the FBI has at some point looked into Obama's birth.

39 posted on 11/29/2008 12:52:27 PM PST by Drew68
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To: tom h

Read my post again, please. (And PS, my moniker ain’t just a good song.)


40 posted on 11/29/2008 6:15:34 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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