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To: Beckwith

You have responded to my remarks.

It’s a shame that a tireless archivist like yourself has chosen to defend a charlatan. Have you no morals? Your birth certificate conspiracy is unraveling. Have you seen these recent quotes from Janice Okubo?

— When we spoke to a spokeswoman for the Hawaii Department of Health, she said too much was being made of the difference between the so-called “long” and “short” forms.

“They’re just words,” said spokeswoman Janice Okubo. “That (what was posted on the Internet) is considered a birth certificate from the State of Hawaii.”

“There’s only one form of birth certificate,” she said, and it’s been the same since the 1980s. Birth certificates evolve over the decades, she said, and there are no doubt differences between the way birth certificates looked when Obama was born and now.

“When you request a birth certificate, the one you get looks exactly like the one posted on his site,” she said. “That’s the birth certificate.”

As for the theory that Obama’s original birth certificate might show he was foreign born, Okubo said the “Certification of Live Birth” would say so. Obama’s does not. Again, it says he was born in Honolulu. —

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/01/worldnetdaily/birthers-claim-gibbs-lied-when-he-said-obamas-birt/


423 posted on 07/02/2009 3:11:49 PM PDT by Ryan Church
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To: Beckwith

I saw the Politifact article. They lied about the DHHL website saying that they will accept a COLB now. You pointed out that Hawaii changed all of their websites between June 8 and June 18 to now include the COLB. Before then, they ONLY accepted long-form BCs. Hawaii is covering their a** here. End of story.

The COLB that is alleged to exist, but does not, and the image of it that is alleged to be genuine, but is not, represents a form that Hawaii introduced in Nov. 2001 (not in the 1980’s). It says so right on the COLB form.

No one on this planet has ever seen a real COLB for Obama because there is none.

It is also worthy of note that (a) Okubo does not know what Vital Records does or does not do, (b) Hollyfield misquoted her more than once, and (c) the last statement from Okubo is that “there is no way to tell what that is,” referring, of course, to the COLB “scan image.”

Besides, have what’s his/her face find one single shred of evidence that Hawaii actually produced this document. Janice Okubo never said anything to that effect. Plus Alvin Onaka trumps Janice Okubo.

He/she cannot produce anything since Hawaii never produced anything even closely resembling the piece of trash posted online.

Lest we forget, Factcheck is a part of the forgery scam, so anyone who references Factcheck is obviously clueless.


424 posted on 07/02/2009 5:55:29 PM PDT by Polarik (Mom: You were right! The world IS run by a secret, international cabal.)
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