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Holy Buckets. SCOTUS Will Hear Obama Citizenship Case.
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Posted on 11/20/2008 3:46:28 AM PST by dascallie

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To: dascallie

Let me end the suspense. SCOTUS will dodge the issue by declaring it not in their jurisdiction.


101 posted on 11/20/2008 7:07:30 AM PST by pabianice
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
I think you are correct in all your points.

Berg seems to have fallen off the scope.

102 posted on 11/20/2008 7:23:05 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Thank you for the clarity in your response quoting the 20th Amendment Section 3.
Thank God the Senators in the ‘30s saw fit to amend the Constitution.


103 posted on 11/20/2008 7:26:11 AM PST by LongIslandConservative
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To: pabianice

Really. How many times have they declared “not in their jurisdiction” after they decide to conference a case? Is it frequently?

What percentage of the cases do they decide to hear out of number of cases they discuss in conference? Is it 1 in 10?

I would love to know.


104 posted on 11/20/2008 7:30:31 AM PST by joygrace
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To: dascallie

Don’t forget, this court is still five liberals and four conservatives.

Pray without ceasing!


105 posted on 11/20/2008 7:31:23 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Sorry, you need to go back and re-read the Constitution and pay special attention to how we resolve a situation where no candidate receives the required 271 electoral votes.

There is a very distinct possibly that we could end up with a McCain / Biden administration. Primarily because Congress is not able to introduce new candidates for President as part of their participation in the resolution of a non-majority election. Biden would be a new candidate for President as the VP slot is handled via a separate vote.

Of course, this is only ONE of many possible outcomes. I can easily see a situation where Biden will be the President as well. That would require that after the electoral process and after Obama is sworn in, SCOTUS rules that he is not eligible to serve as President. This would require Biden to assume command and I believe that we would end up with a Biden / Hillary ticket.

I also believe that the only benefit from this will be an increase in popcorn sales.

106 posted on 11/20/2008 7:31:26 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Safrguns

The EC also has to elect the Vice President, so they’d still have the problem of who to replace Biden with.


107 posted on 11/20/2008 7:32:08 AM PST by Styria
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To: libstripper
Well, if both Obama and McCain are ruled ineligible ... we have a REAL constitutional crisis. Because Congress is not permitted to insert new candidates when they resolve the situation where the electoral college does not have a majority.

Does anyone know if any other candidate received even a single electoral vote? If so, we could end up with that individual as President.

108 posted on 11/20/2008 7:34:29 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: dascallie

bttt


109 posted on 11/20/2008 7:35:07 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: wny
"If Obie is ruled inellegible, it’ll be President Biden"

That is definately not true. He may be deemed elected as VP, or the DNC may be found to have failed to field a legitimate candidate, in which case Biden who was chosen by Hussein, is also inelligible, but a president will still have to be chosen by the electors, from the field of candidates.

110 posted on 11/20/2008 7:36:27 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: NObama2008
"...all these liberal judges will sweep the accusations under the rug in order to stop any chaos from breaking out in the country."

Hussein will be allowed to have his presidency, and in the greatest irony in all history, it will be done, "for the good of the country".

111 posted on 11/20/2008 7:38:20 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Styria

That’s the portion of the 12th Amendment that was amended by the 20th Amendment.


112 posted on 11/20/2008 7:38:45 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: smokeyb
The Justices meet in conference either twice weekly or twice monthly to discuss what cases they'll docket for argument - it's SOP.

If four of the nine agree on the merits, a case is scheduled for further briefs and argument.

This is getting legs for real .. now comes the time for the nine to prove their loyalty - Constitution or public opinion.

113 posted on 11/20/2008 7:40:59 AM PST by tomkat ( . . preparing to shrug . .)
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To: joygrace

I’m trying to see how TheOne* will weasel out of this with SCOTUS helping him.

It’s quite obvious by now that fraud has been committed. Getting a BC is the easiest thing to do. It’s a no brainer.

Anyone of us would have gotten a copy of our BCs as soon as it was asked for. We would have moved Heaven and earth to get it on time. I think all of us have a (misplaced) copy of one someplace, or our parents do.


114 posted on 11/20/2008 7:42:56 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Non-Sequitur
"Kind of a sick puppy, aren't you?"

We don't all need sarcasm tags...

115 posted on 11/20/2008 7:43:41 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: savedbygrace
I'm also wondering if it might not be good advice to have a couple of McCain's elector's vote for Palin as President. McCain will lose a couple of votes sure ... but .... in the event that SCOTUS rules that neither Obama or McCain are eligible, the only remaining votes would be for Palin. Congress would then be required by the Constitution to choose among the remaining electors which would be Palin.

Of course, the same could be done with votes for Hillary ....

116 posted on 11/20/2008 7:44:21 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Maurice Tift
The Supreme Court could study the matter and decide on the real meaning of 'natural born.' If both are disqualified, then I suppose the whole election would be invalid.

At present, the best I could find, we use US Code, section 1401 to define natural born:

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:

* Anyone born inside the United States
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

US Code Collection

If the SCOTUS uses this code as defining natural born then McCain is OK and Obama is not.

Another posiblility is that the SCOTUS could define natural born in a way that Obama is included even if he was born in Kenya? If that happens what is to be done about the fact that Obama used a forged document to show he was born in Hawaii? Should someone elected using fraud be allowed to serve?

117 posted on 11/20/2008 7:46:33 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: TruthWillWin
  Maybe we'll find out what 'natural born' really means after all of this is worked out. Certainly, born in the US of parents who are also citizens qualifies as 'natural born.' Are there other cases that lead to natural born citizenship? Maybe a Google search of scanned books published in the 1700s might have something of interest.
118 posted on 11/20/2008 7:49:16 AM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: dascallie

A completely private affair conference? Why is that? Whatever happened to “the public’s right to know”???

Oh wait. I keep forgetting. That only applies when it’s a Republican or a non-leftist involved. DemocRats deserve their privacy from the prying eyes of the people.

Got it.


119 posted on 11/20/2008 7:51:51 AM PST by XenaLee
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To: TruthWillWin

If citizens at birth is the same as ‘natural born.’ That seems possible. Maybe a constitutional scholar can help.


120 posted on 11/20/2008 7:55:05 AM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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