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"Something of Historic Proportion is Happening" (history repeating ?)
Atlas Shrugs ^ | 11-13-08

Posted on 11/13/2008 6:50:52 PM PST by STARWISE

A reader comment over at Dollard's place nails it.

(http://patdollard.com/)

Plain and simple .... and true. This is what I see. I wish I had written it. (hat tip mg)

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I am a student of history. Professionally. I have written 15 books in six languages, and have studied it all my life.

I think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is just a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it.

Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten - fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

We learn just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has “loaned” two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms.

That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the 700B we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of “we the people,” who loaned our powers to our elected leaders.

Apparently not.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why?

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving.

Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity.

Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (now violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it wants marriage to remain between one man and one woman.

Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?.

We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is medicare and our entire government, our education system is worse than a joke

I teach college and know precisely what I am talking about)–the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth.

It is potentially 1929 x ten. And we are at war with an enemy we cannot name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

And now we have elected a man no one knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla, Alaska.

All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary

(Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin’s pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe is more imporant.)

Mr. Obama’s winning platform can be boiled down to one word: change.

Why?

I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.

This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life.

In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

And that is only the beginning.

And I thought I would never be able to experience what the ordinary, moral German felt in the mid-1930s. In those times, the savior was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing.

What they did know was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory and promises.

Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his “brown shirts” would bully them into submission. And then, he was duly elected to office, a full-throttled economic crisis at hand [the Great Depression].

Slowly but surely he seized the controls of government power, department by department, person by person, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The kids joined a Youth Movement in his name, where they were taught what to think.

How did he get the people on his side? He did it promising jobs to the jobless, money to the moneyless, and goodies for the military-industrial complex.

He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe, and across the world.

He did it with a compliant media–did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and . . . change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

(Look it up if you think I am exaggerating.)

Read your history books. Many people objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and made fun of.

When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though.

Don’t forget that Germany was the most educated, cultured country in Europe. It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And in less than six years–a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency–it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors. All with the best of intentions, of course.

The road to Hell is paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me.

Some people scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. Perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe–and why I believe it.

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bailout; change; financialcrisis; mandatoryservice; marxist; obama; obamatruthfile; radicals; socialist; thecomingdarkness
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To: Ted Grant

I confess I’m tired and in need of a shower.

Nevertheless, not understanding the outrageous evil within, about and saturating the goals and methods of Obamao

easily sets me off.

Such lack of an accurate perspective on the bloke is shocking for anyone on FR.


221 posted on 11/14/2008 6:53:12 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Polarik

Turning the truth on its head, making up down and down up, is their SOP.

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I know this. I am old enough to remember the Army-McCarthy hearings.

Today, I heard a concerned caller to Rush’s substitute ask who would give her (and all of us) a detailed plan of action to promote conservatism. My head almost exploded, but I understood her ignorance and her desire to be handed a To Do list.

What I would put at the very top of the list is:

Take back our language.
Stop using the language of the left.
Stop apologizing for “offending” certain entitled groups with words that THEY deem “offensive.”
Understand that the Left use this control of language as a means of silencing any opposing thought or dialogue.


222 posted on 11/14/2008 6:57:07 PM PST by maica (Barack Obama is a Weathermen Project.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

America is always the one to run to help .. whose going to help us now?


223 posted on 11/14/2008 7:02:54 PM PST by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: Ted Grant

????

Obama is so bad he makes Clinton look neutral practically.


224 posted on 11/14/2008 7:36:22 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: MHGinTN

Operation Thrift
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128937/posts

Live on Less and Love It
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2129863/posts


225 posted on 11/14/2008 7:37:16 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Don't blame me, I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Well, for Sarah Palin, anyway.)
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To: Ted Grant

“In the 2000s there were people who thought 911 was an inside job and we were on our way to a Bush-led tyranny.”

So you’re equating total wingnuts with those of us here who see Obama and his plans, beliefs and stated policies as a dire threat to freedom.

Hmmm.


226 posted on 11/14/2008 7:37:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Ted Grant

I’ve got an idea. Instead of generalities, why don’t you bring up the various actual reasons those of us here taken the evil Obama is likely to enact - and defeat those reasons, rather than just use emotionally laden phrases like “drama queen” to criticize people here?


227 posted on 11/14/2008 7:40:53 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: diamond6

“...whose going to help us now?”

I’m sure Putin would love to help us. And he’d even get rid of that pesky bunch of dems/leftists before anything else.

Obama will not be able to control things when they really start unraveling as he is a lightweight provisional such as Kerensky...at the unraveling you will see the entrance of real communists grabbing the wheels of power.


228 posted on 11/14/2008 7:40:56 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG.... greatgrapegurglinggulags)
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To: Quix

I think he’s just a troll.


229 posted on 11/14/2008 7:46:58 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: madison10
I have been wrestling with this myself. Another poster on another topic helped me see a glimmer of why:"They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them.We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error."-1 John 4:5,6
People see the truth, but that is just a small percentage of us. Less even see the ominous storm that is potentially brewing on our horizons.
230 posted on 11/14/2008 7:48:06 PM PST by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Well, at least we'll probably get another holiday out of the deal.)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks.


231 posted on 11/14/2008 7:48:49 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: little jeremiah

I think you’re right.


232 posted on 11/14/2008 7:51:42 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: netmilsmom

My husband says it should last until four years after January 20, 2009, if we’re lucky, and eight years if we’re not.


233 posted on 11/14/2008 8:31:17 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Don't blame me, I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Well, for Sarah Palin, anyway.)
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To: Travis McGee

Hey Travis, I’m a professional writer, and if you would like an edit or two I would be happy to do that for you. I have four novels of my own and others’ edits have helped my work immeasurably.


234 posted on 11/14/2008 8:46:18 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Don't blame me, I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Well, for Sarah Palin, anyway.)
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To: STARWISE

“I am a student of history. Professionally. I have written 15 books in six languages, and have studied it all my life.

I think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is just a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.”

Mangled metaphor or fractured simile, this resembles a dark and stormy dawn as the night draws near.


235 posted on 11/14/2008 9:01:00 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Aliska
But I do know I don't want foreign interests or the super rich controlling our currency and calling the shots.

Unfortunately, foreign interests (did you know that such banks as the Bank of England, Lessard Brothers-Paris, Rothschild, Amsterdam, and quite a few others not only are *part* of the Federal Reserve, they have been so since its inception), and the super rich (J.P.Morgan-Chase, once Chase Manhattan, and Citigroup, the Rockefellers, also part of the Fed since inception), have been "calling the shots" from the word go.

Lastly, they do, indeed, "know what they are doing", it's just that the public doesn't know what they are doing, and what the goal truly is. They've been largely hiding this, and now, seem poised to make their final move, and we will all be the poorer, both financially, on in freedom, for it...

the infowarrior

236 posted on 11/14/2008 9:23:06 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: STARWISE

bookmark


237 posted on 11/14/2008 9:54:39 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for president Bush. Pray for our troops. Pray for McCain /Palin, Pray for our nation.)
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To: infowarrior
I want to give Obama a chance. I hope we are not 1929 Germany all over again. But the similarities in the article must be noted, unfortunately. He (Obama) has so many ties to radicals. It's scary.

That said, there is something very strange going on, as you've posted, and it seems to be way beyond just who we elected president.

I have the same feeling of foreboding others have expressed. But, then I remember that the Lord is in charge through good times and bad.

Pray for our nation.

238 posted on 11/14/2008 10:28:56 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for president Bush. Pray for our troops. Pray for McCain /Palin, Pray for our nation.)
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To: Pajamajan
That said, there is something very strange going on, as you've posted, and it seems to be way beyond just who we elected president.

Consider the following. The Federal Reserve jacked around the US economy on two other occaisions. Both eventually led to "world war". Now, the have not only done so a third time, but actively interfered, openly, in the US Presidential Electoral process, which is unprecedentedly brazen, even for them.

Now, does this mean another "world war" on the horizon? Actually, no, I don't think so, due to the advent of nuclear weaponry. Nope, *this* time, they will use both the crisis they have invoked, and the specter of nuclear Armageddon, combined, to achieve their final goal, "one world government". This is their game, and Obama is, at the moment their chosen pawn. However, if he is whom some suspect him to be, then he will beat these criminals at their own game, and substitute *his* agenda, *his* "one world government" for theirs.

Does this idea give folks "warm and fuzzy feelings"? No, and it shouldn't, but people need to understand that the road to this moment in history began long ago, and isn't going to be changed easily, if at all...

the infowarrior

239 posted on 11/14/2008 10:43:02 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: Eye of Unk

I believe that he’s already done that hasn’t he?


240 posted on 11/14/2008 10:52:55 PM PST by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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