It is the same number as the one on the inquiry screen request for information on Debbie's site, so it is the one in question.
I believe Obama’s form is fake as it doesn't even have his Selective Service number on it. Does anyone have one around that year? I have a copy of one for 1992 (birthday of the person is 1974). I realize the form could have changed, but I can't believe they would leave off the Selective Service number altogether. The only thing blanked out is a space for the Social Service Number, which is also blanked out on the inquiry form. The Selective Service number is given on the inquiry form.
We need more info from Debbie as to how she obtained this copy. Someone said the person revealed his name. I couldn't find it on the site yet. Anyone have it?
UPDATE #2, 11/14/08: Retired Federal Agent Source Reveals Himself:Agent Coffman has himself made some posts on that thread.The recently retired federal agent has requested that I disclose his identity so that there is no question as to the source of the information.
His name is Stephen Coffman. He retired last year from the position of the Resident Agent in Charge of Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Galveston, Texas office. He has over 32 years of government service and has held a Secret or higher security clearance for the majority of those years.
He filed the FOIA with Selective Service and has the original letter and the attachments. He first notified the Selective Service of his findings and they ignored the questions.
He can be reached via email at retirediceagent@sbcglobal.net.
Posted by Debbie at November 13, 2008 01:56 AM
“I believe Obama’s form is fake as it doesn’t even have his Selective Service number on it.”
The computer generated record of Obama’s registration does show his SS number on it, right at the top (61 1125539 1). This is consistent with other SSN issued in 1961. The center digits are random. The last digit is a checksum and can be any number between 1 and 9.
The handwritten registration form will of course NOT have his SSN on it, because he was just registering for the draft. The number is assigned later at the SSS processing data center. Then they send you your SSS (draft) card, which is how you find out your number.
The DLN number as I pointed out earlier is not something you would generally know. You would have to request your registration forms with the FOIA to obtain your DLN. It is the DLN that begins with the year you first registered. In Obama’s case this was 1980, so the first 2 DLN digits are 80. This is what the computer records also says: 8089 708 0632. So what is the problem?
The problem is the handprinted registration certificate number is MISSING the first digit, “8”. There should be 11 digits in the DLN. There are only 10 digits on the registration form. If this was a DLN from 2008, there would be also be 11 digits, NOT the 10 digits in the copy shown on Debbies’ site.
So either the correct DLN was printed without the leading 8, for 1980, or the first digit has been erased.
The background analysis of the registration form shows the background has in fact been whited out - right up to the leading DLN “0”, and in most other areas of the card. This is a photoshop operation. Someone has modified the photo Debbie put on her site. This photo was scanned from a paper document - so the government did not photoshop anything - the photo had to be first scanned from the FOIA original paper copy, and then the background digitally cleaned up, replacing the original paper scan background with pure digital white. CHECK THIS OUT YOURSELF. You use the “sharpen” function to bring up the background noise. White out areas have no noise by definition. The original background always has noise that is visible with enough sharpening (or noise differential enhancement).
The date stamp also was whited out where the “19” should be. The rest of the information appears to be valid. The publication date of the form is hard to resolve, but looks like SSS Form (Feb 80) to me. Not the Feb 90 date Debbie is speculating.
In other words the original form has been doctored to appear forged and/or in disagreement with the computer printout from the SSS, and this was done after it was scanned by the retired Texas govt worker. WHY and WHO would do this? If the two forms agreed in DLN and post office date stamp where the 19 was missing, there would be no story here. Is someone trying to create a story by doctoring with the document?
You can see this selective erasing of the background here:
http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=obamaselectiveservicereaf3.jpg
