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To: Polarik
Thought maybe this idea might help.

I have a Certified Hawaiian BC from 1985. I have scanned it, using a Lexmark 5200 and lexmark software, at 150 dpi as a colored document.

On either side, the raised seal is apparent. what I have noticed on most if not all of the HA COLB is the Seal.

do the following:

On http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cdd_1224547565&c=1, save the pic in the 4th row, 3rd column, #241109.

If you don't have a copy of the decosta BC, save it from here, http://www.valeehill.net/genealogy/documents/doc_decosta_pat_birth.jpg.

save the last BC at the beginning of this blog, file0016.

open these files separately in a photo editor and flip the images so they are read backwards. forme, i had decostas zoomed at 200% and file0016 zoomed to 295%.

You can see that decostas was certified in 2002, the file0016 image from Polarik is from mar 2007. i have a long form HA BC certified from 1985. comparing these two seals in reverse with a scanned copy of the back of my BC, they are very similar, very similar.

now applying the same technique to the pic from liveleak, i noticed dramatic differences in the two outer rings of the seal, as compared to the other BC’s.
The inner ring appears too wide, it does not have the same spacing of the dots as the other BC’s do.
The characters are much more diffused that with the other BC’s as well.

Using the weave pattern to determine size, all of the seals appeared to be the same diameter with the exception of the Obama BC, it was a double weave thread smaller.

if you need a copy of my 1985 cert BC, from 1962, tell me where and how to post it and i will.

I feel that either:
1. the HA dept of health changed their seals between mar and jun of 2007
2. the clerk that handled Obamas BC lost his seal and got a newer and different one.
3. someone did a bad job on trying to reproduce the seal on obamas posted COLB.

77 posted on 11/11/2008 4:35:55 AM PST by willn62
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To: willn62
Thanks for the info, but it's old new for me. I have a post on here that is a summary of my research from June 13 to August 21. The conclusion will be up shortly.

I recommend that you read it. It will get ytou up-to-speed of where we are: had everything you mentioned:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2084512/posts

Hawaii changed their Seal in 2005, making it smaller. what I really would like to see is a 2006 COLB. I've got 2007 & 2008 COLBs.

78 posted on 11/11/2008 7:25:54 AM PST by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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