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Barack Obama - Born in Kenya II [1 min 58 sec VIDEO]
Barack Obama - Born in Kenya II ^ | Added: October 21, 2008 | From: livingonplanetZ

Posted on 11/01/2008 9:02:09 AM PDT by davidosborne

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To: Sibre Fan

We can agree on the judicial activism thing.

I would only say again that THE LANGUAGE OF THE CONTITUTION AT ART.II, SECTION 1, PARA. 5 IS CRYSTAL CLEAR AND REQUIRES NO — REPEAT — NO JUDICIAL INTERPRETATION.


61 posted on 11/01/2008 11:47:51 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: davidosborne

Thank you for the ping, FRiend.


62 posted on 11/01/2008 12:37:59 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: davidosborne

People have a right to know that he’s not properly vetted. If McCain’s grandmother said he was born in Canada, I wonder how quiet the drive-bys would be?


63 posted on 11/01/2008 12:41:28 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: 1rudeboy

I saw this video. It’s compelling. Why shouldn’t some of us share it with others? I mean, how many ways are there are to chant the ‘Obama is a socialist’ mantra?


64 posted on 11/01/2008 12:44:24 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Dick Bachert

“I would only say again that THE LANGUAGE OF THE CONTITUTION AT ART.II, SECTION 1, PARA. 5 IS CRYSTAL CLEAR AND REQUIRES NO — REPEAT — NO JUDICIAL INTERPRETATION.”

Absolutely correct!

This BS about the necessity to avert a constitutional crisis is just that, BS.

The only crisis will be when the first member of Congress formally objects on (or before) Jan 6 to the validity of a state’s Certification of Vote and the Dem politicians try to do what they do the best.


65 posted on 11/01/2008 1:36:45 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Obama: "I don't believe people should be able to own guns." Thanks for the heads up, O.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Who said you shouldn't share it? My point is that it is of little use at this stage if the purpose is swaying an undecided voter, and useless if trying to sway an Obama voter.

It's triage time . . . if one is going after undecideds start hammering taxes, economy, nanny state, etc. By nature of the clock, this story is now but a sideshow.

66 posted on 11/01/2008 1:39:19 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

23% of Texans think Obama is a muslim and you think that mentioning the birth certificate should take a back seat to repetitive, uninspired droning. Sorry, that doesn’t cut it with me.


67 posted on 11/01/2008 1:50:22 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: 1rudeboy

I think voters would be interested in hearing more about Ayers and his wife, too:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2111988/posts?page=63#63

Bernardine Dohrn’s reaction to the Manson murders:

“Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!” -Weather Underground leader and wife of Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn

What a sick couple those two are. [And to think that Obama worked closely with Ayers for three years and launched his political career in Bill Ayers’ house.]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2111988/posts?page=64#64

Obama’s Foul Weather Friends

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obamas_foul_weather_friends.html

On March 6, 1970, three members of Weatherman were killed when a powerful bomb they were constructing exploded prematurely. The device had been made from dynamite, wrapped with roofing nails to maximize casualties. Its intended target was a dance for noncommissioned officers and their dates scheduled for that evening at Fort Dix. [snip]

Larry Grathwohl, an undercover FBI agent who infiltrated Weatherman, later testified that Ayers had identified Bernadine Dohrn as the person who bombed a San Francisco police station in February 1970, killing one officer and injuring two others. [snip]

... 13 sticks of dynamite that the group placed in a Detroit police officers’ association building ... [assembled by Ayers] “Bill [Ayers] said that we should plan our bombing to coincide with the time when there would be the most people in those buildings.”

Bernadine Dohrn made numerous contacts with Fidel Castro’s Cuban Mission at the UN [snip]

After returning from Cuba, Dohrn and others met with North Vietnamese and Viet Cong representatives in Budapest, Hungary, to discuss antiwar strategy on US campuses. [snip]

[She sent SDS out to coordinate with North Vietnam and Castro.]

Now for the zinger:

As a gesture of solidarity, the Vietnamese who Dohrn met in Budapest presented her with a ring made from an American aircraft shot down over North Vietnam. Bill Ayers would receive a similar ring while meeting with Vietnamese communists in Toronto. [snip]


68 posted on 11/01/2008 1:58:40 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

‘xactly. Far better and more effective to hammer that issue and all it means instead of blathering about where Obama was born while peoples’ eyes glaze over.


69 posted on 11/01/2008 2:25:07 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: davidosborne

Paper today said an official in Hawaii announced BHO was born in Hawaii but curiously, nobody will release any birth records. Guess we’re just supposed to take their word???? Is there a ACORN in Hawaii? Or maybe they’re called COCONUTS for Obama over there.


70 posted on 11/01/2008 4:58:09 PM PDT by floriduh voter (AYERS' BOOK PRAIRIE FIRE dedicated to sirhan sirhan, Robert Kennedy's killer)
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To: davidosborne
YouTube disabled comments to the video.

They are soooooooooooooooooooo predictable.

71 posted on 11/01/2008 5:28:16 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: 1rudeboy

“...instead of blathering about where Obama was born while peoples’ eyes glaze over.”

The only thing making peoples’ eyes glaze over are the trolls who tell us what not to talk about.


72 posted on 11/02/2008 12:14:49 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I find it interesting that, because you are unable to unacknowledge that I might have a point you think I'm a troll. LOL

Heck, you probably don't even know what my point was.

73 posted on 11/02/2008 5:20:09 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Your point is that you are bored with Certifigate, so you joined the ranks of TAV — Trolls Against Vigilance. Some poeple find this topic interesting, and you like to let them know you are bored with what they write.

I, on the other hand, am bored with Trolls Against Vigilance. They are nags, harpies, what-have-you.


74 posted on 11/02/2008 5:24:06 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I see, you made a caricature of my argument in order to label me a troll. Keep fighting the good fight, Arthur


75 posted on 11/02/2008 5:26:48 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

It’s really quite simple: vigilant citizens want to determine if a candidate is Constitutionally qualified. A Troll Against Vigilance likes to nag vigilant citizens.


76 posted on 11/02/2008 5:28:19 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I think that, at this stage of the Election cycle, we should concentrate on defeating Obama and dealing with a possible Constitutional crisis later.
I mean, c'mon, who are you going to convince that Obama is not a U.S. citizen apart from someone who is not planning on voting for him anyway?

77 posted on 11/02/2008 5:31:08 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I’m sorry if you feel I went too far. Look, I get frustrated with people criticizing the hard hard work of others. Can you understand that? Enough is enough. People are spreading discord when they try to trash Certifigate threads.

Maybe we can find some common ground here:

Did Obama’s Children Touch the Rings of Death? [Scalding FReeper Rant]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2122424/posts

Have you heard about the Rings of Death?


78 posted on 11/02/2008 5:35:30 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Dick Bachert

I think we agree on that. And I don’t think anyone disagrees with that fundamental proposition that the Constitution clearly requires the President to be 35 years old and a natural born citizen.

I think the disagreement is on the proper process for determining the substantive requirement. Some contend that this is an issue appropriate for a court to decide. I contend that the court in Robinson v. McCain got that right – the process is set forth in the Constitution (Voters > Electors > Congress).


79 posted on 11/02/2008 11:39:54 AM PST by Sibre Fan
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To: ethical
No, it does not mean that "obama and fact check were lying when they said they were in possession of the BC."

Obama can, and apparently did, obtain at least several certified COLBs, one of which they posted on their website. The "fact" that they posted a certified COLB on their website and/or submitted it to the VA Board of Elections is not inconsistent with the "fact" that the original birth certificate resides, per state law, in Department of Health records.

However, as others have noted, the fact that the original BC does reside in Hawaii records, which indicates he was born in Hawaii - does NOT mean that the COLB posted on his site was accurate either (except that the place of birth as Hawaii was accurate). We don't know that the father's names match, or that the mother's name matches, etc.
80 posted on 11/02/2008 11:46:55 AM PST by Sibre Fan
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