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1 posted on 10/17/2008 1:55:38 PM PDT by hecht
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To: hecht
Please spread the word and help defeat the MSM and Obama campaign to supress the conservative vote by pointing folks to:

SARAH PALIN DRAWING LARGE CROWDS ALL ACROSS AMERICA
http://www.jeffhead.com/palin/palin-hiding.htm

One look at those crowds and people will know the real truth about what is happening on the ground in this campaign right now, and puts the lie to the MSM push polls.

2 posted on 10/17/2008 1:58:03 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Army Air Corps

Ping to self for later read.


3 posted on 10/17/2008 1:59:08 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: hecht
I posted this on an earlier thread. I'll post it one more time here:

The polls -- commissioned, after all, by media outlets -- are designed to extract the most advertising dollars from both campaigns. Presidential elections are the political Super Bowl for the MSM, and political advertising differs from the run-of-the-mill since it has to be paid for in advance. It's cold, hard cash for a media sorely in need of it.

So you bet they'll make it look close until the bitter end, on occasion showing one candidate or the other building a lead so the other candidate increases his advertising buys.

These polls are all about money for the Drive-Bys.

I'd add that as the election grows closer, and the MSM and their hired pollsters decide they've wrung every last dollar out of this thing, the polls will begin to more clearly reflect reality, in order to maintain the polling firms' reputations.

4 posted on 10/17/2008 1:59:33 PM PDT by JennysCool (There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and the polls.)
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To: hecht
Actually got polled today.

Poller: are you planning on voting?
H-mama: You betcha!
Poller: Will you be voting for McCain or BO?

H-mama: My father and I, and at least five of my “D” neighbors will be voting for McCain.....Guess that means, according to Murtha, we're living in a “racist neighborhood”!

Poller: sputtered.

6 posted on 10/17/2008 2:00:32 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Acorn, Africa,Alinsky, Ayers,....BroadwayBank,Bastard child,Birthcert......now to the "C"s ;-))
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To: hecht

I’m telling you, there is a quiet, and big, movement to McCain since last week, even before the debate. Dayton Daily News came out with a poll Sunday showing McCain winning Obama by 2. I have info that he may be doing even better than that. If he’s doing that well here, he has to be doing pretty well in PA.


8 posted on 10/17/2008 2:07:21 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: hecht
While it's wonderfully tempting to believe that this matters, I really don't think that it does.

The claim seems to be that because there are more of one group polled than another, the reported poll results will necessarily be skewed by the same amount.

In reality, any pollster would adjust the numbers to reflect the actual ratios of R, D, and "Other" voters, based on voter registration statistics, for example. A simple-minded approach would be to use registration stats to scale both samples to a theoretical 1000-person sample.

There are less tractable issues, such as (perhaps) differences in how easy it is to contact an R vs. a D -- are the former more likely to have unlisted numbers, for example? Are Republicans more or less likely to respond to a poll?

There are plenty of reasons to be skeptical of the poll results, but I seriously doubt that a failure to account for sampling differences is one of them. There is too much at stake, business-wise, for a pollster to make such a basic error.

13 posted on 10/17/2008 2:18:55 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: hecht

Of course they over sampled Democrats. We have a huge advantage in registrations resulting from the need to rid Washington of the incompetent Bush administration that has been in charge of the stock market crash and jobs depression of the past 8 years.


18 posted on 10/17/2008 2:30:53 PM PDT by MurryMom
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To: hecht

And don’t forget the Bradley Effect.


19 posted on 10/17/2008 2:31:13 PM PDT by TBP
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To: hecht

Sample 2000 people. Take the 1000 that give the desired results.

How many do this?


25 posted on 10/17/2008 2:55:13 PM PDT by CPOSharky (Blaming CO2 for global warming is like blaming your thermometer for your kid's fever.)
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To: hecht

Why do they over-sample? Is it real vote vs fake dem vote? Good Grief.


39 posted on 10/17/2008 9:02:56 PM PDT by eyedigress ( My first 4 wheeler was on the rocks in Fairbanks)
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To: hecht

bttt


40 posted on 10/17/2008 9:04:01 PM PDT by GOPJ (Theresa Collins...national coordinator of "Inmates to Support Barack Obama," ...)
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